Swedish Pre-order "Mistake"

**x-dANGEr** · 11-04-2006, 16:35

Talk about hype.. (How much they advertised the "dismounting" feature)

**Ferret** · 11-04-2006, 16:55

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

Talk about hype.. (How much they advertised the "dismounting" feature)

I totally agree!

**Kralizec** · 11-05-2006, 18:47

I suppose that means that units such as "dismounted boyars" and "dismounted Gothic knights" we've seen so far, were in fact just trainable infantry types.

I've been mislead into the belief that the "dismount" function was back. Suddenly I get the feeling I get when I'm ripped off, without myself having actually bought the game yet.

If I get some good reviews from actual players (such as on this site), I might still buy MTW2 but only if the price drops to something more reasonable, like 20 euro.

**Maizel** · 11-05-2006, 19:57

I'm bummed about apparently not being able to dismount my knights.

Buyt that's not a big enough reason for me to drop the game altogether

**Puzz3D** · 11-06-2006, 17:18

Originally Posted by Kralizec

I've been mislead into the belief that the "dismount" function was back. Suddenly I get the feeling I get when I'm ripped off, without myself having actually bought the game yet.

That's exactly the ripped-off feeling that everyone I know has who bought RTW.

**Ferret** · 11-06-2006, 18:40

Originally Posted by Puzz3D

That's exactly the ripped-off feeling that everyone I know has who bought RTW.

Why does everyone hate Rome???
I liked it thanks to the great campaign map and really liked the chosen time period. LEAVE ROME ALONE!

(Hey that rhymes, lol)

**Kralizec** · 11-06-2006, 20:57

Eh, no it doesn't.

Almost everybody who complains about Rome (and now, about MTW2) were in fact great fans of MTW and/or STW.
A lot of great features (of wich dismount was only a minor one) were abandoned for no apparant real reason, with the excuse "that it would just confuse non-hardcore players"
The fact that dismounting is out is only the last drop. I'd still buy MTW2 without hesitation if I knew for a fact that the faction limit is up to over 26, if the developers made an effort to emulate the great civil wars of MTW original, if CA made a credible pledge to support the modding community, et cetera. But the cold hard truth is that likely we'll have none of that.

@ Poodle: CA isn't evil, not sure where I gave you the idea that I thought so. They're no better or worse then the average company trying to make a profit. If you love CA's work so much, good for you. Spend your own money as you see fit.

edit: spelling

**Freedom Onanist** · 11-06-2006, 21:16

Originally Posted by Puzz3D

That's exactly the ripped-off feeling that everyone I know has who bought RTW.

3 options:

Puzz3d, Kralizec, if it really bugs you that much - don't buy it.
Get enough people to agree with you and the numbers should impress CA enough to take you seriously - shouldn't be that difficult if everyone you know felt cheated. Strange how word of mouth didn't spread to stop RTW becoming a best seller though isn't it? Ah, what fools we all were to fall for the hype eh?
The other option is wait for a mod. Again, this won't take long since CA have engaged with the modding community - nasty deceivers that they are.

**Dr_Who_Regen#4** · 11-06-2006, 22:30

I am sure there are "features" that have been removed in place of a different "feature" CA thought was valuable...or just removed because they did not want to spend $5000 or whatever to build something if it does not change their sales numbers....

My job is related to managing software development (not games or products for end consumers) and there are always choices to be made. You have a budget of so much and you have to prioritize things. I can tell you that my users are not always happy (Hopefully they are happy more times then not or I will need a new job). This is just how things are as end users (us for M2TW) are not part of every decision because they do not see the big picture.

I would love CA to add in a lot of features that used to be there or that are great ideas from people here, but they have made a financial decision on their part that they hopes gets them the most profits. We can all make our own decision of either buying the game now, waiting for reviews/mods, waiting for the price to drop, or decide not to buy it ever...

I for one find this series as the only reasonable Strategy game out there (maybe I have not looked hard enough). Although I do find that RTW was at best poor on challenge it is still the only game (along with MTW) I have found with a feel that I like....of course others can choose not to like it...

Anyways about a week to go and I am hoping for my early chicago release....Maybe EB Games gets confused like the company in sweeden and gives me my copy early...

**Prince of the Poodles** · 11-06-2006, 22:31

@ Poodle: CA isn't evil, not sure where I gave you the idea that I thought so. They're no better or worse then the average company trying to make a profit. If you love CA's work so much, good for you. Spend your own money as you see fit.

Sorry for the rant against your post.

It just seemed that - out of all that Maeg88 said in the thread - people were picking up on a function that was not that important and making it into a big deal.

However, i can see where people would definately be angry about being mislead.