a soft voice is heard: put out your hand and I will pull you to safety
Ha! Not only did I invite that, I sat it in my Barcalounger, served it a brewski, and handed it my remote control!

...I have illustrated the practical issues and would therefore rather put the knife in the beast now rather than wait even another six years.
Hence our crux. I say wait (because the good end has not yet arrived from the nefereous means). You say now (because of the deleterious effect of the means on the civitas as a whole).

It looks to me that we are fairly intractable on these. Were it to you and I alone to decide the fate of AA programs, I'm certain we could craft an agreement in less than 24 hours (with some staff assist to pull stats).

However, I'm willing to throw it to the voters, and live with the result. I am a fan of Initiative, Referendum, and Recall, particularly at the state and county level.

I have appreciated the discourse.



And thank you, Ice for the topic