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    smell the glove Senior Member Major Robert Dump's Avatar
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    I don't understand why they lump the veteran section under affirmative action law for the sake of simplicity and enforcement, but it really doesn't seem to fit (just like quotas don't fit) except in the spirit of existing to prevent discrimination, i.e. "we won't hire you because we don't like military people."

    I'm assuming this is largely overseen by Veterans Affairs in the capacity of job placement assistance and reintegration into veterans old jobs etc. It just seems rather odd that this particular stuff is considered affirmative action.

    On a side note, I think quotas are often a friend of companies who impose them, while working against the employees and the customers/beneficiaries of the services provided. Basically, quotas are the easy way out if you can prove you are trying to meet them, because the fact is that not all ethnic groups and sexes apply for certain jobs/schools.

    This is why companies save applications for years, and why larger companies give you the option of putting your race on the application if you want. If a Latino man goes to a coffee shop and gets bad service, then sues the coffee shop and uses the lack of Latino employees as further proof of discrimination, how does the coffee shop prove it never gets Latino applicants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

    This is why companies save applications for years, and why larger companies give you the option of putting your race on the application if you want. If a Latino man goes to a coffee shop and gets bad service, then sues the coffee shop and uses the lack of Latino employees as further proof of discrimination, how does the coffee shop prove it never gets Latino applicants?
    they keep records of the applicants....

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    Looks like Michigan voters decided to ditch AA afterall

    Proposal - 2 Affirmative Action - Michigan 5651 of 5681 Precincts Reporting

    Yes - 2,131,488 - 58.06%
    No - 1,539,431 - 41.94%

    from Detroit News online
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    Its about the only thing I voted for that passed/got elected. but
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    Its about the only thing I voted for that passed/got elected. but
    Likewise, except my local rep for Congress got relected.

    It's funny, the president of the University just had a huge rally in the diag (center of campus) bout how she was going to fight it legally, blah blah blah. Quite funny, how people preach for democracy, especially here, but never really seem to except the results.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice
    Likewise, except my local rep for Congress got relected.

    It's funny, the president of the University just had a huge rally in the diag (center of campus) bout how she was going to fight it legally, blah blah blah. Quite funny, how people preach for democracy, especially here, but never really seem to except the results.
    At lease she was still teaching, the lesson: Hypocrisy.

    I am deeply disappointed that the voters of our state have rejected affirmative action as a way to help build a community that is fair and equal for all.
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    But quotas are fair and equal!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    At lease she was still teaching, the lesson: Hypocrisy.


    But quotas are fair and equal!?
    Oh I know. I just rolled my eyes as hundreds of students mindlessly clapped and the minorities just shock their heads in agreement.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    At lease she was still teaching, the lesson: Hypocrisy.


    But quotas are fair and equal!?
    Of course they are! Didn't you get the memo? FYI, it also stated that henceforth 2+2 = 5.
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