Why does TWC have more hosted modifications than the Org?

**Solon of Athens** · 11-05-2006, 17:40

Originally Posted by khelvan

What is the "RTR effect?" EB was based at the .org, and always has been. TWC was just a place for fans to come and discuss the mod for us.

RTR and EB had a forum at TWC, EB had a forum at the Org. That is what I mean by the RTR effect. But TWC had SPQR and TE as well...

I agree, it isn't a competition, I joined the Org first, but posted at TWC more, while still lurking at the Org. Many are members of both sites...

**khelvan** · 11-05-2006, 18:01

I can tell you from experience in co-founding RTR that TWC was simply the place with the greater number of modders, which is why that effort happened there and why EB decided to open a second forum there. In order to attract new talent having a strong presence at TWC is necessary.

Forum-goers may have a choice and it may be personal preference, but mods have little unless they want to miss out on the opportunity of a greater base of modders.

**MSB** · 11-05-2006, 20:10

I have asked TosaInu to move this thread to the "Mod Discussion" forum as it appears that I will get more answers there from experienced modders.

**Solon of Athens** · 11-05-2006, 20:20

Originally Posted by Avlvs Brittanicus

If OR and EB are merging then that will probably mean that TWC becomes the new home of EB! Can I specially request that EB stays here at the Org so that I don't have to use TWC? Please! Please! PLEASE!

The fact that I am posting more here should tell you that OR is coming to the Org as well...

TWC isn't that bad....I'm a member of both and it hasn't affected me...

**MSB** · 11-05-2006, 20:38

Originally Posted by jp26991

TWC isn't that bad....I'm a member of both and it hasn't affected me...

I know you are not supposed to bash other sites however I wish to say this about TWC:

TWC is not as freindly as the Org. A place with a community that is just way too large. The Org however is a nice (reasonably) small site which is personalized with things such as the forum skins and avatars. The Org is like a little village where everybody knows everybody, while TWC is a huge city (like London) where nobody knows anybody. TWC is just too modern and too large. It also doesn't have the nice avatars either and it also has a very complex ranking system. The Org is the best forum that I ever signed up to and as an added bonus it has the most friendly staff out of any forum that I have ever seen in my lifetime. Hooray for the conservative and freindly Org!

**Ciaran** · 11-05-2006, 20:52

TWC is unfriendly? Not in my experience, at least, but maybe yours was different. I´m a member of both sites as well (though the .org was the first I joined, it was simply the one I discovered first) and can´t say I´ve ever felt "mistreated" in any place.

**Ares** · 11-05-2006, 21:30

Originally Posted by Ciaran

TWC is unfriendly? Not in my experience, at least, but maybe yours was different. I´m a member of both sites as well (though the .org was the first I joined, it was simply the one I discovered first) and can´t say I´ve ever felt "mistreated" in any place.

Yeah, I've spent some time reading the posts and threads there, and I would have to agree that TWC is pretty unfriendly compared to the Org. TWC also seems way too political. I think recently they even had some sort of rebellion or something.

I definitely like the Org environment better.

Regarding the mods, I don't know. I think it's ultimately based upon the choice of the modders themselves. But if you look at the hosted modifications section of TWC, you'll see that most of them are just ideas. Many of the mods end up dieing prior to even being finished. Either way, M2TW will bring in a wave of new members to both communities and a wave of new modders as well.

**Caius** · 11-05-2006, 20:53

I found the .org more simple to explore.

**snevets** · 11-05-2006, 21:01

The reason why TWC has many more hosted mods than the ORG is VERY, VERY simple.

The ORG reserves its hosted spaces to mods which actually want to have their development forums here, at least initially. Also because its such a small community mods with no intention of doing so sometimes get hosting because of org important team members.

TWC allows sites to use its hosting spaces as press conference areas. They don't insist people do any development there whatsoever- its just about the previews. Also since its such a large site they have loads of room to give a space to whatever two bit mod that wants one.

**Solon of Athens** · 11-05-2006, 21:00

Originally Posted by Avlvs Brittanicus

I know you are not supposed to bash other sites however I wish to say this about TWC:

No you are not...

TWC is an unfriendly place. A place with a community that is too large. The Org however is a nice (reasonably) small site which is personalized with things such as the forum skins. The Org is like a little village where everybody knows everybody while TWC is a huge city (like London) where nobody knows anybody. TWC is just too modern and too large.

TWC is very large and expaning rapidly. I agree that the Org is probably much friendler, small communities tend to be. I joined up for the Org so I could post in the EB forum. When I found out I couldn't edit my posts etc. I left the Org (posting wise) and moved to TWC. All the ranks at TWC were a bit daunting at first, but once I got to understand them and started to get to know people better, TWC became my interent home. The Civitates system at TWC means people who stick around and post well/mod etc. are rewarded, and the community of Civitates at TWC is much like the small community here at the Org.
I know a lot, probably most, of the active TWC members, things just take a while at TWC, but the friendliness towards 'noobs' helps. That is the only downside of the Org in my opinion. Whereas TWC's downside could be it's size. The Org also has a better forum layout, but we are changing the one at TWC, so that should be just as good.

The Org is the best forum that I ever signed up to and as an added bonus it has the most friendly staff out of any forum that I have ever seen in my lifetime. Hooray for the conservative and freindly Org!

Are you saying that the staff at TWC aren't friendly? *feels insulted*

**King Henry V** · 11-05-2006, 21:30

Originally Posted by jp26991

Are you saying that the staff at TWC aren't friendly? *feels insulted*

They're friendlier here, probably because they're based in one forum (sometimes two) and have their name at the bottom of the forum screen which adds a sort of personal, individual touch, whereas at TWC mods are ferried from one forum to the other and it's not as easy to find out who mods where. Add the super moderators who can mod anywhere, it all gives a feeling of a sort of faceless group of mods.