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    The study doesn't account for the area between Washington and Alaska where controlled fisheries have kept the populations at status quo for quite sometime. That obviously shows a sign of hope, but then if they talked about that then the UN couldn't wave around a study telling the west to stop eating and wasting so damned much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    The study doesn't account for the area between Washington and Alaska where controlled fisheries have kept the populations at status quo for quite sometime. That obviously shows a sign of hope, but then if they talked about that then the UN couldn't wave around a study telling the west to stop eating and wasting so damned much.
    I don't know, the real problems are actually much less about the West than in the developing countries of, say, Asia. Those are the places where crucial ecosystems are being destroyed en-mass.

    I could say "I was there, I know it" in a sense, I guess.

    Though if you mean that won't allow rabid environmentalists to call out at the USA for being such an evil fish-eating people...

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    It's quite sad. I know down here in the gulf of Mexico there is a massive area called the "Dead Zone". Quite literally everything has been fished so heavily that not even plants grow there. The problem is very few people these days care or know about how badly their destroying the oceans by eating all that sushis and fish. Out of site and out of mind IMO.

    I would hope by 2048 though that company's that fish comercially would learn from the lobster and crab industry and begin to harshly impose regulations. But with so many 3rd world countries nearly surviving on fish alone it would be difficult.

    Bluefin tuna catches in the Mediterranean thought to be 60 per cent above the 32,000 tonnes quota
    Not that it matters, by 2048 bluefin wont be able to survive in the Mediterranean. Not completely up to date on this but isnt the nocious toxofolia going to turn the remainder of the Mediteranean to a green turf by 2020 or so? Or has France finally decided to unleash the hordes of snails?
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    I don't even know if I'll live to see 2048, but I'd like to eat dead sea creatures if I do. This sucks”: What? You don’t eat them alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    I don't even know if I'll live to see 2048, but I'd like to eat dead sea creatures if I do. This sucks”: What? You don’t eat them alive?
    I do. It's an aquired taste and somewhat barbaric to Western standards but it's difficult to get your sashimi much fresher.

    I have to say that Japan is a shocker for sweeping the oceans clean of marine life. A visit to the Tsujiki fish market in Tokyo blows most peoples mind. You'd think the oceans would be empty after you see the sheer volume of every kind of marine creature that gets moved through there on a single morning!

    As many of you have mentioned I think with proper management and more focus on fish farming, wild fisheries can be made sustainable. The problem is that we tend to do nothing about things like this until the last possible moment. We'll probably end up fine but poor folks in the 3rd world will suffer greatly unless global action is taken on this looming disaster soon. I think this is the kind of area world bodies such as the UN should be focusing on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock
    I have to say that Japan is a shocker for sweeping the oceans clean of marine life. A visit to the Tsujiki fish market in Tokyo blows most peoples mind. You'd think the oceans would be empty after you see the sheer volume of every kind of marine creature that gets moved through there on a single morning!
    Most western fishing vessels drag up the same stuff, pick out the 10% they want and dump the remaining dead and unsaleable (in the west) creatures back in the water.

    Quotas increase the amount of this 'by catch' - which is utterly wasteful and a scandal quite frankly.
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    Major Robert Dump, the UN couldn't do anything, they couldn't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    I don't even know if I'll live to see 2048, but I'd like to eat dead sea creatures if I do. This sucks”: What? You don’t eat them alive?
    They suffocate by the time I bring them back to fry.

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    I found it really ironic that the only group in Britain who were saying this was rubbish and we definately shouldn't cut back on fishing, were in fact the only group who actually need fish. The fishermen. Idiots. Going the way of the coal miners.

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    I think aquaculture is the only way to go here, really. We may not like the taste of farm-raised salmon as much as wild salmon, etcetera, but we are eating ourselves into oblivion. Every medical study I've seen says essentially the healthiest diet you can eat is fish and vegetables. Maybe a little starch and a little chicken. But not much. We should be eating beef and pork no more than once every few weeks. Obviously, as more people start switching over to fish as opposed to beef, we're going to put a terrible strain on the sealife population that exists wildly.

    We domesticated cows, pigs and the lot thousands of years ago. It's time our husbandry catches up to our dietary science. That being said, as a big seafood fan, I really hope they can learn to start breeding for taste. Wild seafood really does taste better.
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