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    Liar and Trickster Senior Member Andres's Avatar
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    Default Re: There is no free speech here

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    I reckon blank copypaper will get more expensive due to copyrights.
    And when that happens, TheCunning will show up with his huge stockpiles of blank copypaper!

    Hahaha! You'll all have to pay for TheCunning's paper! I will rule the world with blank copypaper! Muahahaha

    Hm, ok, it's that time again :

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    Default Re: There is no free speech here

    In the US, home of the First Amendment, free speech co-exists with the prohibition on fighting words, defamation, threats, obscene speech, etc., because those forms of words are deemed non-speech because they are broadly considered to have no social value. The term "non-speech" is a legal fiction, that describes the absolute lack of value assigned to those types of speech.

    Although people all over the world talk about their "First Amendment right" it is only an American right, however the concepts of the First Amendment are present in every non-totalitarian state, including the idea that certain forms of speech are non-speech and are therefore not covered by that nation's free speech guarantee. Most notable among these are Germany's laws on National Socialism, although a German jurist might not use the phrase "non-speech" to describe the promotion of Nazi ideals, it is conceptually the same. Without using the phrase "non-speech" a German jurist might well say that promotion of Nazi ideals is so abhorrent and is absolutely without social value that it cannot be covered by an express or implied right to free speech.

    In a private forum, such as the org, the decision what is and is not "speech" is entirely at the discretion of the owner of the private forum.
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    Default Re: There is no free speech here

    A good thing to point out.
    Additionally, please note that the Org is essentially the 'publisher' of your comments. How far do you think I would get saying that a book publisher was restricting my freedom of speech because he refused to publish my 5,000 page novel describing my exploration of navel lint?
    Depends on where you are...reminds me of Atlas Shrugged.

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    Default Re : Re: There is no free speech here

    Quote Originally Posted by Dhepee
    Although people all over the world talk about their "First Amendment right" it is only an American right
    Slightly OT, but I never heard someone talking about his First Amendment right out of the US.

    Free speech is worthless anyway. Just close every topic except the Babe Thread, the Org will only get better that way.

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