Modding the turns/years

[Barbarossa82]

Someone over at TWCenter reports that M2TW's descr_strat.txt has an option to show dates as turns, that can presumably be turned off (a la RTW Alexander). Which makes me wonder, would it be possible through simple editing to remove the phenomenon of characters aging 1 year every 4 years?

Ideally, I'd imagine that the descr_strat file tells the game how many years the campaign spans, and how many turns that has to take, and then the game works out how many turns make up a year. So we could just mod descr_strat to bring characters' aging back into line with the actual progression of dates? I sure hope so, even if it means reducing the number of years spanned by 225 turns.

[Polemists]

I just prefer to see my turns as years for purely aesthic reasons. Still I'm sure if you give the modders some time they can keep the same number of turns and make generals aging more realistic.

[econ21]

Modding questions belong in the modding forum.

[alpaca]

Since the game wasn't released yet and I didn't get it yet I can't tell you that ;) But I guess so.

[Barbarossa82]

Modding questions belong in the modding forum.

Whoops, thanks econ21

[[DnC]]

Alright I might not completely understand you, but there's an option called "timescale 2.00" (<- default). 2.00 means 1 turn equals 2 years and by putting it at 1.00 you'll get; 1 turn = 1 year. If you go any lower it might crash the game. But putting it at 0.50 or 0.25 might give you 2 turns a year or 4 respectively. However I fear this will not work. 1.00 definitely works!

By deleting the line "show_date_as_turns" it might revert back to showing years.

I'm going to check a couple of things out and report back later.

Note: Changing the descr_strat.txt means you'll have to restart your game. Just incase you weren't aware of that.

First edit: Deleting the line "show_date_as_turns" works! It shows the years!
Now I'm going to try out setting the "timescale 2.00" to "timescale 0.50".

Second edit: Setting timescale at 0.50 works to!!! 2 turns for 1 year.

Characters age properly. 2 turns are needed for the characters to age by 1 year.

Last edit: Setting timescale at 0.25 doesn't work properly. No crashes or anything, but characters age each 2 turns, but the years are 4 turns a year. Plus you'll get summer and winter twice. Inadvisable.

[PROMETHEUS]

have you tried may be 0.3 or 0.2? There was a script for four turns a year may be it could be tweaked for MTW2....

[Epistolary Richard]

Second edit: Setting timescale at 0.50 works to!!! 2 turns for 1 year.

Characters age properly. 2 turns are needed for the characters to age by 1 year.

Last edit: Setting timescale at 0.25 doesn't work properly. No crashes or anything, but characters age each 2 turns, but the years are 4 turns a year. Plus you'll get summer and winter twice. Inadvisable.

Some good work there. What I think you'll probably find is that character aging & seasons and the number of years per turn are completely separate.

- Years per turn are softcoded and able to be set in the timescale line in descr_strat so we could have a 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 50 whatever years per turn.

- Character aging & seasons, however, are instead treated as they were in Rome - with a summer/winter/summer/winter/summer etc. order and the characters aging every winter (as they did in Rome).

This means that if you set timescale to 0.5 you have essentially restored it back to the way it was in Rome.

To change the order of the seasons (to something like summer/summer/summer/winter for a proper 4 turns per year- and therefore also the character aging - you're going to have to use Myrddraal's scripts in the campaign_script file. But before you do that, test to make sure the date and season console commands still work.

If they do, have a look at Myrddraal's releases and see if they still work, but place the script in the campaign_script file rather than in the advice folder:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=52168
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=44648

[Lord Condormanius]

[QUOTE='[DnC]']
[b] Deleting the line "show_date_as_turns" works! It shows the years!
Now I'm going to try out setting the "timescale 2.00" to "timescale 0.50".

Second edit: Setting timescale at 0.50 works to!!! 2 turns for 1 year.

Characters age properly. 2 turns are needed for the characters to age by 1 year.
[QUOTE]
Yes. This is awesome. It works great.

[big_boss120]

SO which setting is the best??

0.5 year/turn or the default??

[SirRethcir]

Of course the default. ;)
Else you have to rework the hole campaign, thus making a complete mod.

[troymclure]

Just like to note that even though i prefer the actual aging achieved by changing to .5 the game plays better at 2.
Leave it on .5 and i doubt you'll see gunpowder before you take over the world. Still nice too have seasons though...

[GeWee]

I've never liked having cannons in these types of games which is why I restarded campaigns in both Shogun and Medieval once I got access to gunpowder.
I've changed to 2 turns per year and now I'm worried that gunpowder will come a lot sooner.. Or is the access to gunpowder based on an event a certain year?

[Turpitudo]

Blackpowder comes between 1240 and 1250, but you can change or delete it in the descr_events.txt. The numbers by date indicate not turn number but ingame date, e.g. for blackpowder invention "date 160 170" would mean 1080 +160 or 170 years making it 1240 to 1250. You can deactivate it by putting a ; in front of the three lines of this event.
As you can see the events are assigned to the actual game date, not the turn number.