England Faction Campaigners..

[anders]

sword and buckler men were supposedly effective against pike when they rolled under the pikes and got inside the pikemens ranks.

btw. theres no rason they should be weak against other infantry, should be goos duelists except for a certain lack of reach and armor.

[econ21]

sword and buckler men were supposedly effective against pike when they rolled under the pikes and got inside the pikemens ranks.

I heard if failed at least as often as it worked. The Swiss would not have had the reputation they had if sword and buckler men could have just reliably rolled under their pikes and slaughtered them. If such a counter-measure to the phalanx was a sure thing, it's not exactly rocket science, so other factions could have imitated it.

btw. theres no rason they should be weak against other infantry, should be goos duelists except for a certain lack of reach and armor.

Exactly. I think there's a reason most infantry went for reach weapons and armour. I only an armchair expert, but I imagine a plate armoured man with a polearm is pretty much the pinnacle of a one on one melee fighter. Neither the buckler nor the sword seem much of a defence against a polearm, while the sword is not the ideal weapon to damage plate.

[Freedom Onanist]

Hmmm... Looks to me like the Longbow has been neutered as well. Their rate of fire is pants. Not sure about the damage they might be doing, since they pnly ever get one shot off against most opponents! I think there is balancing issue going on here. How do you simulate the bow's ability to fire out effectively out to +200 yards whilst not running out of arrows in the game?