Hunters are 'serial killers'.

[BigTex]

That's a horrible way to die. Falling from a blind I doubt he died quickly. Those people are even worse, they revel at the site of a man, a husband, a father dieing. What's worse is they don't even care that they profess to love all animals and yet care nothing of this mans death.

Edit: What drives them to this? Perhaps feeling empty in the world, then looking for something to stand for, to fill a void in their life?

There are alot of backward and strange people in this world. Quite alot of hate must have been around that person for them to go down that path. Sad really, they hate hunters and yet it is the hunter that has done so much more for animal conservation and endangered species protection then they will ever do.



But I guess there's the ultimate question one could ask in this situation. CR how did you run across that forum? You certainly have some strange surfing habits.

[Hepcat]

These sort of people are the New Zealand religous fanatics. The people who break into science facilities and smash them up. They are convinced that they are saving the world by making everything "natural". They are convinced that having huge conservation areas, islands and programmes which cost millions aren't good enough. They want to destroy all signs of human progress in their quest for what is natural.

Nobody ever points out to them that their homes aren't natural, or that speaking isn't natural or that planting things isn't natural or that having a political view point isn't natural or caring for any species other than your own isn't natural.


There are too many stupid people in the world and because we have such a small population these stupid people are able to get their nutcase party into parliment.

They aren't the Green party! They are RED! ALL OF THEM!!!

and I always thought the same thing. They are anarcho-communists with a plan to destroy human civilisation and create a society of apes without any un-naturally creative or intelligent thought allowed.

[Aenlic]

and I always thought the same thing. They are anarcho-communists with a plan to destroy human civilisation and create a society of apes without any un-naturally creative or intelligent thought allowed.

As the resident anarcho-communist, I must take exception to the above characterization. You're referring to anarcho-primitivists, or just plain primitivists. Nutjobs the lot of them. They are a subset of the Green anarchists. Green anarchists are a subset of anarchists. Anarcho-communists are also a subset of anarchists; but while there might be some overlap in small part, they aren't the same thing. So, anarcho-communism is not the same thing as anarcho-primitivism. Just as neoconservatives aren't the same thing as conservatives and neo-liberals aren't the same thing as classical liberals.

[Hepcat]

As the resident anarcho-communist, I must take exception to the above characterization. You're referring to anarcho-primitivists, or just plain primitivists. Nutjobs the lot of them. They are a subset of the Green anarchists. Green anarchists are a subset of anarchists. Anarcho-communists are also a subset of anarchists; but while there might be some overlap in small part, they aren't the same thing. So, anarcho-communism is not the same thing as anarcho-primitivism. Just as neoconservatives aren't the same thing as conservatives and neo-liberals aren't the same thing as classical liberals.

hmmmm... I can't understand why anyone would want to bring about anarchy, whether it be anarcho-communist, anarcho-primitivist or just plain old anarchy, they are all anti-society so I despise them all (I prefer a more authoritarian government). I could probably spend hours arguing with you on this point but I don't think this is the topic for it. They just really annoy me, and it is the people who say "well they are working for the enviroment and making the world a cleaner place, I guess I will vote for them." who also annoy me. People who aren't as extreme but are brainwashed by a mixture of the media and the ecologists who make them think that we are on the verge of becoming a wasteland.

The government is working hard and spending a lot of money on helping the endemic flora and fauna to recover from the mammal immigration that crippled their populations. Busting up a sciece lab won't speed up the proccess. We have a steady emmigration of skilled labourers and well qualified people which means that all the stupid people are left behind to proclaim that judgement day is at hand if we don't get rid of our microwaves and electronics which are evil and stop our mass prejudice against trees. For example:

There used to be a hill in Auckland called 'One tree hill' because there was only one solitary tree on top of it. This tree had several attempts on it's life (people trying to cut it down) and was held up by cables and had a fence around it. The government finally decided to take it down a few years ago as it was so scarred and bent and old that leaving it there was just silly. It was ONE tree which was dying anyway. But the HUGE fuss kicked up over it was just ridiculous.

I had been to 'one tree hill' several times when the tree was there and it isn't that special. Well anyway, the tree was cut down, so now it is called 'none tree hill' or 'no tree hill' and all the controversy ended there because the Greens found something new to complain about. ALL THEY DO IS JUST TRY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING THAT GOES ON!!!! AND THEN THEY DON'T EVEN SHOW ANY COMMITMENT WHEN IT HAPPENS!!!!

They just use the publicity to show off "oooh look at me I am so important because I have something to complain about and I can say the word ecology as though I know what it means"!

I think all these anarcho-communists anarcho-primitivists (I am going to use that from now on) should be shot! Then this country would be a much happier place.

End of Rant

[Seamus Fermanagh]

....and farmers are cereal killers.

Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll have someone smack me.




Rabbit:

I agree with you whole-heartedly on this one. There is some kind of basic disconnect with reality in that mode of thinking.


Aenlic:

I have little respect for anarchy as a political model, viewing it as eminently impractical. An a-governmental communal sharing model of society is far too "theoretical" to actually work.

I would also caution you to be careful about accidently lumping in all who hold religious beliefs with fanatics of various stripes. I think you were noting that fanaticism can lead to total close-mindedness and amorality -- a concern with which I concur -- but some of your phrasing seemed to imply that all religious belief was a form of fanaticism, which is not a valid claim.

[Lemur]

I have little respect for anarchy as a political model, viewing it as eminently impractical.

Anyone who thinks anarchy is the way to grand human harmony should spend a few weeks in Baghdad, or at the very least be forced to watch The Road Warrior repeatedly.

From anarchy comes tribalism, and where people go from there is the usual plate of worms; dictatorship, feudalism, etc.

[Banquo's Ghost]

From anarchy comes tribalism, and where people go from there is the usual plate of worms; dictatorship, feudalism, etc.

Lemur, old fruit, I think you need to stop playing so much Civilisation IV.

[Lemur]

They are convinced that they are saving the world by making everything "natural".

That's the root of the problem with any fundamentalist, as these whack jobs illustrate. If you think that you've got 100% of the answers, and you need to save the world, there's no atrocity you won't commit.

This group looks even loonier than the extreme Greens in the U.S.