Questions for people with game

**Rpkmann** · 11-10-2006, 19:37

Hey I'm a long time player and viewer first time poster etc...
I get the game tuesday, but in the meantime i was wondering if people with the game could answer a few questions for me please.

For example, when you've created a crusading army and have to get to...let's say jerusalem, do you have to get military access to other catholic nations/eastern orthodox to march through their lands...plus wouldn't the turks try to stop you if you're just marching through turkey to attack another islamic faction?

Also can the pope expand the papal states like he could in MTW? If so will you be excommunicated if he attacks you?

And on a historical note i noticed that the musketeers wear ripped tunics...stupid question but I was wondering why were they ripped, was it purely the time's fashion or was there some purpose for it?

sorry for the stupid questions...

hope to see some of you in multiplayer!

**Shoraro** · 11-10-2006, 20:52

Regarding Crusading, I just marched from Caen to Jerusalem without needing military access with anybody. Didn't go through any Turkish lands, Byzantine all the way.

Armies and settlements that aren't allied to you will exert a zone of control that can take a while to get through/bypass though, plus if you take too long not moving towards your objective you lose men through desertion. You can pick up mercenaries en route though, so no worries.

Right, time to find out what these Egyptians are made of.

P.S If you're buying from a shop in Blighty, WH Smith's for the win. Got it for £24.99, which is £10 cheaper than Game.

**econ21** · 11-11-2006, 02:12

Originally Posted by Shoraro

P.S If you're buying from a shop in Blighty, WH Smith's for the win. Got it for £24.99, which is £10 cheaper than Game.

Yes - I found that out by accident. You're in Nottingham too? Game in the Victoria Centre had a wrestler or some such celeb signing a game in store today, so they were not admitting common shoppers. So I went down to Smiths and was pleasantly surprised. Cheaper than the Amazon pre-order I cancelled (after postage).

**Rpkmann** · 11-11-2006, 02:19

Damn I wish I could get have gotten the game this weekend, just have too much work and have to wait until tuesday...stuck with the north americans.

**Rpkmann** · 11-11-2006, 02:25

Yikes! sorry for cursing, forgot the policy...anyway i can edit that out?

**Comrade Alexeo** · 11-11-2006, 02:51

For the record, the slashed tunics were indeed a fashionable thing for the times; people liked to show off the fancy silks and so forth that they were wearing underneath their overclothes.

Think of it like guys today with their shirts unbuttoned halfway to show off "bling"

**eefums** · 11-11-2006, 03:59

Originally Posted by Rpkmann

Yikes! sorry for cursing, forgot the policy...anyway i can edit that out?

not a big deal :)

also regarding crusading..i'm a little dissapointed in fighting for Jerusalem. Any other town is a duke out by the thousands but every time I take Jerusalem it's like Egypt doesn't really care.

**Shoraro** · 11-12-2006, 01:34

Originally Posted by econ21

You're in Nottingham too?

Most certainly am. I quite often check Smith's as well as game, being as they're so close to each other and they quite often have different prices on the same thing.

Back to the crusading thing, if you get bored of walking an didn't bring any shipping of your own, you can of course hire mercenary ships now, which was a pleasant surprise. Being able to retrain mercs is nice too.

Not seen the Pope expanding yet, might try a game with one of the Italian lot or the HRE, as they're a lot closer to Rome, territory-wise.

**Rpkmann** · 11-12-2006, 01:43

First let me say thanks to everyone who has answered questions.
unfortunately i have another one lol...
If you have a crusading army going through a nation your at war with, for example france...would the french be able to attack your crusading army or are they only prone to attack from islamic factions?

**Marius Dynamite** · 11-12-2006, 03:25

I am pretty sure Catholic faction cannot fight a Crusade army. I like to think that the crusade army is an army of the Papal States, being led by, for example, a French General.

**Lord of the Isles** · 11-12-2006, 10:43

Originally Posted by Rpkmann

First let me say thanks to everyone who has answered questions.
unfortunately i have another one lol...
If you have a crusading army going through a nation your at war with, for example france...would the french be able to attack your crusading army or are they only prone to attack from islamic factions?

Looks to me like they can't attack you - I had the whole British Isles (as Scotland) and sent a crusading army through the English lands in France while at war with them. Even a full stack left it alone.

There was a scary moment when the only general leading the crusaders died. The white cross above it disappeared and I got a message saying I had one turn before the units started deserting (or was it before they all deserted? Not sure). Managed to get a replacement general over the channel and joined up in one move). So note: send a spare general with crusades.

And one thing I don't think anyone else has said: crusading armies travel at double movement speed which makes overland travel more attractive (though getting stuck in other units' zones of control is a pain).