Official list of factions and Q&A about them

[kataphraktoi]

Sad to see them go - I especially had high hopes for Armenia Cilica (as I've succeded with them in Chivalry mod ;) )

It was a hard decision, believe me.

I suppose we won't be able to play Teutonic order, because it's an emerging faction, right? This makes me think whther it could be possible to set different starting dates for different factions. So that England would start at 1066, Poland would strat at 1000 (just a wild guess ;), Teutonic order in XVIIth century and so on.

More of a scripted emergence of an independent faction rather than an emerging faction from a faction list.

And expanding this idea, you could make separte eras - so,for example, England would start in 1066 (low era), somwhere in XIIIth cetury (high era) or at the outbreak of 100 year war (late era). I know it could be time consuming to implement, but I think it add flavour to the mod.

too far into the future...hehe

Also, I rember that there was a mod for RTW, that made it possible to switch factions with rebels to over come the faction limit - if you wanted to play with one faction, the other, blocking its place was replaced by rebels. Combining this with the separete era campaigns you could use much more factions - so, for xample, in low era there would be no Portugal and Mongols, but instead you could have Bulgaria and Saxons. Then in mid era there would be no Bulgars and Saxons, but you could get Portugal and Mongols. And so on :)

if there is a mod, could u link me to it. sounds interesting

[=Omni=]

Phew, after lots of searching I've found it :)

Here it is: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34260

Unfortunately it seems that it's batch-file based, so to choose eras (with different factions) player would have to exit the game and run other bat file. But I don't think that having 3 shortcuts (for each era) instead of one would be such a problem for players

The batch files could also have one positive aspect - we could theme the menu and loading screens differently for each era

[kataphraktoi]

This is final list for the first version of MTR, any faction changes will be made in future versions if necessary. This is the faction list we're working from.

Starting Date: 1071

1) Byzantine Empire (Orthodox)
2) Holy Roman Empire (Catholic)
3) France (Catholic)
4) England (Catholic)
5) Poland (Catholic)
6) Italo - Normans (Catholic)
7) Ducate Venice (Catholic)
8) Kingdom of Leon-Castile (Catholic)
9) Kingdom of Portugal (Catholic) note: briefly independent, will have to fight scripted Battle of Pedroso to maintain independence before effective independence date of 1128
10) Moors (Muslim)
11) Danes (Catholic)
12) Norway (Catholic)
13) Serbia (Orthodox)
14) Hungary (Catholic)
15) Aragon (Catholic)
16) Papacy (Catholic)
17) Scots (Catholic)
18) Egyptians (Muslim)
19) Rus (Orthodox)
20) Georgia/Abkhazia/Sakartvelo (Orthodox)
21) Bohemia (Catholic)
22) Qipchaqs (Pagan)
23) Lithuania (Emerging Faction)
24) Mongols (Emerging Faction and Pagan)
25) Khanate of Volga Bulgaria (Muslim)
26) Khanate of Transoxiana (Muslim and vassal of the Seljuks/Turkic Sultanate)
27) Berbers (Same as Moors, but based around Tunis and predominantly a naval piratical force, Muslim)
28) Republic of Novgorod (Orthodox)
29) Timurids (Emerging Faction)
30) Turkic Sultanate
31) Independents

@Omni, has anyone tried it on MTW2 yet?

[=Omni=]

Nice list :)

I cannot say whether it's used or not, because I'm fresh to TW community and I'm more than a lurker and fanboy than modder (at least for now ;) ).

However, from thechnical point of view (and using my little knowledge about MTW structure I gathered until now) I think that having separate eras with separate factions should be 100% possible. Basically you'd have to make 3 mods (for each era) that share everything except for files with faction names (like EDU, EDB, descr_strat etc). Then you just make a small batch file that sawaps the files, depending on what campaign you want to play and you're done

The problem may be with performance, because the swappable files wouldn't be packed (provided we get the repacker), but I don't think that few unpacked text files would have any significant hit on performance.

BTW. Are the factions names used in files same as these in game? Because if not, then there sould be more files to share/less files to swap (for example EDB - provided the swapping faction has similiar buildings as the swapped one) etc etc

[Darkarbiter]

That map looks great! Very wise faction selection etc. Any chance of a colour code to help out the not so knowledgeable?

[kataphraktoi]

Minor changes:

Added Madhia as a city and province

[Baldwin of Jerusalem]

So, Milan is dropped then? This must mean that you dont feel that the Northern Italian city states can be represented adequately with this game dynamic. Interesting. I dont really feel that the map needs to be extended Eastwards. Theres more than enough to cover on the existing map dont you think and even with 31 faction slots they could well be spread very thin.

having said that, Ive just seen your new map. Hmmm, forget everything I just said. lol

[Miloshus]

The map is almost perfect . .
And what is important ; it is almost realistic!

[Cousin Zoidfarb]

disappointing faction list.

the volga-bulgars were erased from history 150 after the start of your mod.
the khanate of transoxania and the timurids should be merged into one faction.
why did the berbers make the cut and not the Knights Hospitaler (the Christian World's naval-piratical force).
leaving the Teutons out will probably create ahistorical rivalries in the Baltic. As well as eliminate recreations of some of the most impressive battles and campaigns of the middle-ages (Peipus, Tannenberg, the thirteen-years war)

[Miloshus]

disappointing faction list.

the volga-bulgars were erased from history 150 after the start of your mod.
the khanate of transoxania and the timurids should be merged into one faction.
why did the berbers make the cut and not the Knights Hospitaler (the Christian World's naval-piratical force).
leaving the Teutons out will probably create ahistorical rivalries in the Baltic. As well as eliminate recreations of some of the most impressive battles and campaigns of the middle-ages (Peipus, Tannenberg, the thirteen-years war)

No game/mod is 100% perfect (realistic).

[Miloshus]

Forgot to ask; Is there America?
Are there any Aztecs?