Official list of factions and Q&A about them

[Sahran]

Unimportant for the ignorant exactly.

The teutonic order controlled a large amount of territory in the baltic at their peak.
The teutonic order's political state survived the middle ages and transformed itself, by various political manouvers into one of the most powerful states of modern times, Prussia.
The most famous conflicts by three of the factions already included in the mod (Poland, Lithuania and Novgorod) were against the teutonic order and not against the HRE.
I agree The Volga Bulgars had a rich state and were a great cultural center but in this time frame, short-lived due to the mogols obliterating them from the world around 1220. A rebel province would do them justice.

Khanate of Transoxania? unrealistic, ahistorical, isn't realism the objective of this mod? But If the objective is a generic Transoxanian faction why don't you include the Timurids in this one, save one faction slot.

I just want to make a point that by insulting the team and insinuating that their decisions are completely unrealistic and ahistorical, you are eroding away at any sort of argument you could try and hold against them.

Everyone can interpret history and the importance of certain groups over another differently. Whereas in RTW the only serious debate was held amongst the divided barbarian tribes and groups like Parthia or the Carthaginians were obvious choices, amongst the terribly divided political map of Eurasia and Africa, it's a lot more difficult. You have your views, they have theirs. Just because you hold a different one does not make yours correct and their wrong, and neither is the reverse. This is their mod, their historical decision was made to omit the Teutons. They are not saying they weren't important, but in their view, the selection of the Volga-Bulgars or Transoxanian was more critical for the 31-faction limit than the Teutons. While you should debate and argue for their inclusion, you should not act like a know-it-all and treat them with contempt for their decision to exclude them.


And what really gets my goad is people like you saying that a generic Transoxanian faction would be fine, but demanding the greatest of divvying up of generic European Powers. Others will come along and say that We must include every major Northern-Italian city, but can just lump the Moors or Turks into some big unruly grouping because of their damned nationalism. While I admit there is logic in the inclusion of the Teutons, I dislike the idea that we can just do an ahistorical and bland generalization of a Muslim or Orthodox faction, but can never do so to a European power. The Khwarazmians played a large part in the affairs of the Mongol's arrival, and just because it doesn't involve the history of Europe doesn't mean it shouldn't be included (if not for the Khwarazmian's actions towards the Mongol Ambassador/Merchants, it's possible we would have seen a far later Mongol Invasion, or no Mongol Invasion at all.). Those more knowledgeable than I can and those on the team can testify to their importance in the region and to the historical development of the Middle East, and even through it, Europe.