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    OK, thanks for the replys. I new there would be somethig that would throw the spanner in my bulgarian works.
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    The assumption that the Crusaders always were overconfident and commited foolish charges is not always true, many times it seems to have been the exact opposite. If any of you have read Usamah ibn Munqidh's memoirs you will know what I mean, one of the things he recognizes in the Franks (crusaders/europeans) is their bravery, lack of jealousy and passion and their cautiousness in matters of war as well as their weird medicine. There is one instance of a small Muslim force being attacked and routed by a similarly sized Frankish force, but fearing an ambush because the flight of the Muslims could be a feigned retreat the Franks do not pursue and instead stay put, and if I recall correctly this Frankish force is later attacked and destroyed, whereas if it had pursued the Muslims they would have destroyed them (the muslims).
    Individual bravery and valour was important in Western military thinking, because pitched battles were relatively rare and most clashes were either sieges or skirmishes between mounted elite troops, pitched battles were often avoided because it was difficult to maintain order and get one's orders through which lead to heavy and unneccesary casualties on both parts. Among the Muslim and Byzantine militaries pitched battles (or rather large battles) may have been more common, because of more focus on military theory and the fact that in these armies professionals were more common, anyway skirmishes, as seen in Western Europe, were more common than pitched battles, at least in the Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randarkmaan
    The assumption that the Crusaders always were overconfident and commited foolish charges is not always true, many times it seems to have been the exact opposite. If any of you have read Usamah ibn Munqidh's memoirs you will know what I mean, one of the things he recognizes in the Franks (crusaders/europeans) is their bravery, lack of jealousy and passion and their cautiousness in matters of war as well as their weird medicine. There is one instance of a small Muslim force being attacked and routed by a similarly sized Frankish force, but fearing an ambush because the flight of the Muslims could be a feigned retreat the Franks do not pursue and instead stay put, and if I recall correctly this Frankish force is later attacked and destroyed, whereas if it had pursued the Muslims they would have destroyed them (the muslims).
    Individual bravery and valour was important in Western military thinking, because pitched battles were relatively rare and most clashes were either sieges or skirmishes between mounted elite troops, pitched battles were often avoided because it was difficult to maintain order and get one's orders through which lead to heavy and unneccesary casualties on both parts. Among the Muslim and Byzantine militaries pitched battles (or rather large battles) may have been more common, because of more focus on military theory and the fact that in these armies professionals were more common, anyway skirmishes, as seen in Western Europe, were more common than pitched battles, at least in the Middle East.
    That's what I was trying to say too...Heritage of clobal wars in the past (clasical era,hellenistic,roman and persian knolege of warfare) gave eastern generals a better military education than the western ones.You are right when you say that bravery was very important for western fighters.In Alexiad is writen that they where heavily armed, their attack was irisistible and the concidered byzantine soldiers and generals coward and sniky becaouse they used a lot of ambuses and they didn't stay to fight one to one like them. Hossarioi (ambuse byzantine troops) treaded like comon thievs and executed by western armed forces becaouse they said that they didn't fight with honour!!!!!

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    Which faction list is most recent, Abe Froman's or this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
    Which faction list is most recent, Abe Froman's or this one?
    The one that I stickied is the latest.
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    Question Re: Official list of factions and Q&A about them

    Only one question.
    Is the Serbia still faction in MTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abe Froman
    The one that I stickied is the latest.

    Well, that listed only 22 playable factions out of the possible 30. There's definitely enough room for factions like Serbia, Bulgaria, Sweden, Ireland, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarHeart88
    Well, that listed only 22 playable factions out of the possible 30. There's definitely enough room for factions like Serbia, Bulgaria, Sweden, Ireland, etc.
    Definatley, Serbia could be a major addition to the playable list. It had after all obtained autonomy by the first crusade.

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