M2TW PBEMs possible?

**Ignoramus** · 11-18-2006, 07:37

I thnk Dukes should be allowed to declare war by themselves. The Dukes of Bavaria and Swabia interfered in Italy A.D. 955, compelling the Emperor Otto to annex the Kinddom of Italy. It will also create the feeling of the Dukes not being all that loyal to the emperor.

Also, is inter-faction marriage possible? If it is, then dukes could expand their territory apart from war. For instance, if the Duke of Bavaria marries the Duke of Swabia's daughter, and if she is the Duke's only child, then when the Duke of Swabia died, Bavaria would inherit Swabia.

**Lucjan** · 11-18-2006, 14:26

I might be persuaded to agree with duke's being able to declare war. The only problem with that is what kind of effect will individual player's choices have on the Empire if their own greed is in fact a bad decision for the empire as a whole. How do you stop such a player from doing these things? Civil war isn't a possibility due to game mechanics.

Inter-ducal marriages seem fine by me.

**lecnac** · 11-18-2006, 15:02

Intriguing ideas guys. Shame I wasnt around much when RTW was about so I missed out the WotS. Having made some good experiences with the board game Diplomacy I'd like to have a go with this one.

I'd prefer the HRE or Byzantine Empire since both are central and allow many choices for the pbmn. An more straightforward campaign like the moors or russians would be rather boring for the majority of participants at the beginning.

**Lucjan** · 11-19-2006, 08:26

I would like for 2 people to help me try and put some of my suggestions to the test with a discreet attempt at a mini-pbem. Just passing some turns and save files around using a summary of what I've suggested to see its workability. Anybody game? We'll be using the HRE.

**econ21** · 11-19-2006, 13:21

Originally Posted by Lucjan

I would like for 2 people to help me try and put some of my suggestions to the test with a discreet attempt at a mini-pbem. Just passing some turns and save files around using a summary of what I've suggested to see its workability. Anybody game? We'll be using the HRE.

That's a good idea. I would like to help with this. I suggest that you start a new thread "Test M2TW PBM: HRE" and systematically list all the rules in the first post. Then we can refine or clarify them a bit before kicking off.

I think I have a pretty good idea of what you are intending, but - for example - am vague on the financial side - how much of the "total spreadsheet" idea we should go for with handling budgets; how we should handle Duke's orders etc. My inclination is to try to do as much as possible of the routine stuff - budgets, orders for the turn - in the thread, rather than by PBMs. Reserve the PBMs for secret politicking.

I think it would be good to do the test publically, rather than be too discreet, as the other Wos players - and other Orgahs - may want to see how it works before committing 6 months of their PBMing time to it.

People who would like to see an alternative WoS type campaign, with a different faction or perhaps without the provincial governor idea complication, could also do a similar mini-trial PBM and we could choose among the alternatives in a couple of weeks (more than one WoS type game running concurrently is possible, but I think given the relatively small numbers of players, it might work better if there was just one).

**Lucjan** · 11-20-2006, 03:09

Sounds good, I'll go about that tomorrow morning when I get home from work, have to leave in an hour and a half, and still have to shower and make my lunch for the night.

Besides myself and Econ I'd like one, maybe two more people. Any takers?