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    Default Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    This guy ran as a libertarian for the Senate seat in Montana, and got 10,000+ votes. He is against abortion and gay marriage. The Republican lost by 2500 or so votes.

    He is also the 'poster child' for why you should not make your own antibiotics (read the article):
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111101004.html

    Zombie Libertarians: Eating Republican brains in these and future elections? Discuss.

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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Zombie Libertarians: Eating Republican brains in these and future elections? Discuss.

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    I do not know about other Libertarian candicates, but our Mr Jones seems to be a complete idiot:

    He is also a man who accidentally turned his skin blue by drinking a homemade antibiotic laced with silver. He first took the medicine in 1999, he said, fearing that the year 2000 would wreck computers, spread terrorism and disease, and make prescribed antibiotics unavailable. He concedes now that he miscalculated.
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    The US needs a more modern voting system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    The US needs a more modern voting system.
    I do not see why. If people want to vote for idiots, they will do so anyway. If that is what Americans really want, then we can send them a few busloads from Holland. We have idiots to spare in The Hague.
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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    Adrian:

    Thanks, but no thanks. We've no shortage locally, production remains steady, and any imports would have to have really special features.
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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    Of a certainty.

    In our current "first past the post" effectively two-party system, third party candidates rarely serve any other role but that of spoiler. In close races, though, that can make the difference.

    The GOP is likely to lose some "protest" votes to libertarians whenever they deviate from a conservative/small government agenda.

    The Dems lost the 2k race this same way, with 90k Floridians voting for Nader in a race Gore lost by less than 1,000 votes. But Gore hadn't been "green" enough or "anti-corporate" enough to suit some fringe lefties.
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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
    Adrian:

    Thanks, but no thanks. We've no shortage locally, production remains steady, and any imports would have to have really special features.
    Hahahaha, good one. I was at my local polling place last week, and someone was kind enough to inform me that gay people were going to steal my home if I voted Democratic. If it weren't for her, I never would have set up those bear traps which caught those pesky homos as they were charging my front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    I do not see why. If people want to vote for idiots, they will do so anyway. If that is what Americans really want, then we can send them a few busloads from Holland. We have idiots to spare in The Hague.
    Not what I'm referring to. Low IQ medium EQ and maxed out CQ are the norm for politicians.

    First past the post allows wins on a minority vote, preferential is an improved (but definitly not perfect) solution. It also has a tendancy to stop a two party system from being all there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Not what I'm referring to. Low IQ medium EQ and maxed out CQ are the norm for politicians.
    Have you talked to any voters lately?

    I am afraid politicians are only humans, no better or worse than those who elected them, generally speaking. The truly able, strong as well as honest politician is a godsend and very rare.
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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    This guy ran as a libertarian for the Senate seat in Montana, and got 10,000+ votes. He is against abortion and gay marriage.
    ...err, doesn't that pretty much disqualify him from being a libertarian ?
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    Default Re: Did a Zombie Libertarian cost Republicans the Senate?

    ...err, doesn't that pretty much disqualify him from being a libertarian ?
    Doc, from what I've heard of "libertarianism" it's usually about my liberties, not yours
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