U.S. children showing hardening of arteries

**Adrian II** · 11-14-2006, 01:39

Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888

I never read that before, and hard to believe that would Be Likely..

That is exactly what is wrong about this whole thing. You never get to read the relevant stuff, just the scare messages.

I no longer do links. I used to, but it leads to nit-picking over words and footnotes.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 11-14-2006, 01:47

You're taking it too far Adrian. Yes the pharmacuetical companies are scaring everyone to sell their cholesterol drugs and making it out to be more than it is, but high cholesterol is a risk factor for heart disease.

**Adrian II** · 11-14-2006, 02:07

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

You're taking it too far Adrian. Yes the pharmacuetical companies are scaring everyone to sell their cholesterol drugs and making it out to be more than it is, but high cholesterol is a risk factor for heart disease.

I am not saying this is a conspiracy, mind you. Nobody planned it this way. It is just that the whole obesity scam is so convenient to many parties involved with health, education, parenting, dieting, etcetera.

And no, there is no connection between high cholesterol blood level and risk of heart disease.

People with low cholesterol blood level, on the other hand, die young. This may be due to all sorts of factors. Nonetheless the Framingham study, the largest longitudinal study in the world which has been running from 1948 and is being continued until this day at Boston University, shows that low blood levels of cholesterol may be the real killer: '‘There is a direct association between falling cholesterol levels over the first 14 years of the study and mortality over the following 18 years."

I'm having eggs and bacon on well-buttered toast tomorrow morning. It may not help much, but it won't do me any harm.

**CrossLOPER** · 11-14-2006, 02:24

Sweet! All that crap about eating healthy...
From now on, I'm going to NOT be careful with my diet and give free snacks SUPER hugh in cholesterol to kids and tell them that everything they hear is false....

What causes you to take this stance. I am curious.

**Adrian II** · 11-14-2006, 02:28

Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

What causes you to take this stance. I am curious.

I told you: medical research.

And where did I say that kids should eat only fat and sugar?

**Proletariat** · 11-14-2006, 03:27

Exactly what I was trying to get at a few weeks ago in one of these Americans r fffat threads. Now I have a Dutch journalist and a French intellectual who agree!

**Ice** · 11-14-2006, 03:31

They need to start by serving better food at the cafeterias in public schools. My god, that is some of the worst food for you I have ever eatten. I try to eat the best I can at university, but sometimes due to a lack of free time I find myself grabbing a slace of pizza for dinner.

**Adrian II** · 11-14-2006, 03:39

Originally Posted by Proletariat

Exactly what I was trying to get at a few weeks ago in one of these Americans r fffat threads. Now I have a Dutch journalist and a French intellectual who agree!

Did you notice that the Americans-'R'-Fat notion is a favourite theme of anti-Americanism the world over, capitalising on the supposed symbolism of U.S. imperialism and parables about the ugly American 'guzzling' the world's riches?

Of course you did.

When trans fats are mentioned, Iraq and Kyoto are never far away.

*lights another fag*

**CrossLOPER** · 11-14-2006, 03:36

Originally Posted by Adrian II

I told you: medical research.

Medical research that you cannot even hint at because of an antiOCD.

Originally Posted by Adrian II

And where did I say that kids should eat only fat and sugar?

You said that having low cholesterol is more likely to kill me that having high cholesterol, which according to you will not harm me at all. While having low cholesterol may end up making you sick, having unacceptably high cholesterol will also make you very ill. Why in the world you think hyperlipidemia (which is the main problem associated with hypercholesterolemia) has nothing to do with high cholesterol is beyond me.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 11-14-2006, 03:38

Originally Posted by Adrian II

I am not saying this is a conspiracy, mind you. Nobody planned it this way. It is just that the whole obesity scam is so convenient to many parties involved with health, education, parenting, dieting, etcetera.

And no, there is no connection between high cholesterol blood level and risk of heart disease.

People with low cholesterol blood level, on the other hand, die young. This may be due to all sorts of factors. Nonetheless the Framingham study, the largest longitudinal study in the world which has been running from 1948 and is being continued until this day at Boston University, shows that low blood levels of cholesterol may be the real killer: '‘There is a direct association between falling cholesterol levels over the first 14 years of the study and mortality over the following 18 years."

I'm having eggs and bacon on well-buttered toast tomorrow morning. It may not help much, but it won't do me any harm.

Originally Posted by Framingham study

the study established a strong positive association of LDL cholesterol with coronary heart disease