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[Moah]

Aztecs?

Not for a looong time. If you're playing standard turns then I'm told Timurids should pop up around 1380 (turn 150) and new world is, presumably, around 1490 (turn 205) with the game due to finish 1530 (turn 225). Although another poster said the game keeps going even after end date.

I'm playing on after victory until I've tested myself against mongols but I'm not waiting another 50 turns for timurids and then another 50 for aztecs when I won 30 turns ago.....It'll be a re-start for me.

The only way to meet these guys is to deliberately not play expansive and don't wipe out opponents it seems.

Other posters have argued you must impose restrictions on yourself to play badly so there remains a challenge which seems to me counterintuitive. How is a challenge a challenge if you need to choose not to play your best for it to be a challenge? If you lose you just handicapped yourself too much. If you win, then not enough. The only skill is against yourself.

[OliverWKim]

Whoa. I just hit turn 108 and I'm just 5 regions (including Jerusalem) away from victory. I could play an entirely new campaign in that space of time... Thanks for the great response though. I couldn't find anything about it on the web.

[Owen Glyndwr]

yeah I'm turn 110-ish and I have 46 territories. I own Iberian Peninsula, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, and the northern Balkan Peninsula. Haven't taken Jerusalem yet, huge Mongol army guarding it. But I just captured Rhodes? one of those islands in the Mediterranean ownhed by the Byzantines, and near Anatolia. Im using that as a spring board into the Middle East. One question though, once I take Jerusalem, can I continue on like in BI, or do I stop like in the origional Rome?

[OliverWKim]

You can play on. If you wait several hundred more turns like me, you get to see the Aztecs + Timurids (unless you already have). I have 44 regions, and landed a huge army to capture Jerusalem, but it got wiped out by the Golden Horde - it was outnumbered like 5 to 1 even when I switched it on to Night Battle mode.

[Owen Glyndwr]

sweet, because the Moors just backstabbed me, and I gotta keep my posterity. Can't allow a nation to survive when they destroy half of my Crusading army due to a sea battle!

[OliverWKim]

The Moors back-stabbed me as well, even when I granted them trade rights and map information. We had a good alliance going for like 30 turns and, as I conquered the rest of Spain, the Moors were very happy. Then, suddenly, they besieged Zaragoza. I quickly repelled the attack. However, heir betrayal gave me an excuse to destroy their entire empire.

[OliverWKim]

Just finished the campaign by conquering several provinces in North Africa and taking Jerusalem back from the Mongols. For once, I outnumbered them: they only had 2 units of archers, while I had a 20-army unit of hardened veterans + my faction leader + gunpowder units. Revenge is sweet!