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    Praeparet bellum Member Quillan's Avatar
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    You can do the same thing with navies. The Papal States usually has one navy roaming around the western Med, and if you catch it next to an enemy fleet you can drag them into the war and cause your opponent to be excommunicated at the same time.

    Me, I allied with the Papal States, HRE, and Byzantine Empire at the start, and made a hard choice to keep my global reputation up by not exterminating or sacking any cities and releasing all prisoners without asking for ransom. My relations with all 3 have been solid. Milan was treacherous as usual, and I had to take down their Italian cities (they had taken Dijon in my game) and Sicily jumped in at a later time. I just waited for the inevitable war between the Byzantine Empire and Hungary to break out, got myself dragged into it on the Byzantine side, then took Constantinople from Hungary after they took it from the Byzantines. This might prove to be a trigger for war with my ally, though. The turn I took it, during the end turn cycle, I was attacked by a Byzantine army. The game crashed a few seconds later and I haven't gone back to it yet to see if it will repeat.
    Age and treachery will defeat youth and skill every time.

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    I've learned 'sacking' a city, any city, is fine. What you dont want to do is 'exterminate' a city. Thats what gets you into trouble with the Pope and other countries. There are exceptions to this rule.

    You can exterminate the town if its:
    1)A rebel held town.

    2)You can exterminate if its faction has been excommunicated by the Pope. He's never held it against me yet nor has anyone else except maybe the faction I'm at war with.

    3)And you can exterminate the town if its a muslim faction and you are playing a Catholic faction. No Catholics care if you kill muslims.

    With the exception of those three you can sack everything else and not incur anyone's wrath, including the Pope.

    Ransoming survivors is kinda weird in this game. I always try to ransom just to get more cash but more often than not the faction in most cases refuses to pay and the survivors automatically get killed. The AI seems to be pretty harsh about ransoming IMO. It doesnt seem to matter if the amount is small or large. It doesnt like to buy back the lives of its own men. Not that it bothers me any.

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