Quote Originally Posted by The_crusader
True,Milan should go early in the game ...as I recall they have France that is also against them(the ennemi of my ennemi is my friend).
I am playing on VH campaign and Milan has been my trusted ally for 120 turns now I got 2 marriage alliances with them. I keep giving them little cash and map info and they stay loyal. They keep France England Spain at bay while i went east. You can actually stop the reputation slide on VH through intensive diplomacy it just takes a while. I got Egypt to ally with me after 3 crusades against them so hell anything is possible.