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    I found Poland to have an interesting unit selection. I personally like the look of them myself. You can tell right away this in no basic European faction, like the flamboyantly rich looking Italian units. This is a country that has just embraced Christianity, mainly for its self preservation. Its people would continue many of their pagan ways for the next 300 years following the baptism of its ruler. Knowing this and having used the Polish Nobles, low cost but effective Woodsmen, and assorted Lithuanian units, it just felt right.

    In converting Thorn to a town you delay the progress of your higher level castle units, as your other castles are going to be a while to develop. But I thought it was an acceptable move as the early cavalry are so good and it proved to be so. It’s got a decent population and becomes a city quite quickly and with port access it makes decent income. I also initially took Settin, Madleburg and Breslau. Of these all but Settin were made as castles to form defensive boundary against the HRE. The initial plan was to hold the line here while I’d expand into Russia proper and Scandinavia. I had no interest in displacing the HRE so that I could trade one enemy border for three, at least until I was ready to do so. Eventually Venice, Milan, or France, or all of them will bare themselves against HRE.

    I formed two cavalry groups each consisting of 3 Polish Nobles, 6 Strzelcy and an able general. They were my border guard. Being all horse, they could quickly assist a siege, or intercept an invading enemy. It also allowed for minimal garrisons and kept my economy in progress. When my lands developed and income improved, I built my own siege army that could deal with a well defended city or castles.

    It’s already been well discussed here; to underestimate Polish cavalry is to seal ones fate. They are very good but it was the Strzelcy that really impressed me. These mounted crossbowmen make excellent light cavalry. Use them as light cavalry (minus a lance) that have a ranged attack as they can perform any task you set them too. Unlike standard horse-archers, one must keep in mind trajectory during battles. Arching parabolic/arcade shots are not good with crossbows; you want a direct line of sight at all times during the fight.

    It took me a bit to adjust (as I’m an avid horse-archer fan), as I would manoeuvre them around in battles, but I soon realized they are just as good. I even think they have a little bit more ammo then standard.(?) Armour piercing both in melee ( axes) and shot, makes for allot of killing. Stack after stack of HRE fell to these two groups. Always greatly outnumbered in battles, it mattered not. They always prevailed. If you can micro horse archer armies, you’ll bath the soil between you and the HRE with the blood of thousands.

    Once I formed my combined arms stack for conquering enemy factions, the Woodsmen came into their own here. Note their low defense and high attack. Don’t send them in head on. Keep one or two in each wing of your line behind your able spearmen. Once the lines meet, the spearmen hold, and run the woodsmen around the flanks, preferably with a Polish Noble as escort right beside them to intercept other cavalry that may try to attack them. While they run around the sides to setup for a running flank attack, Polish nobles are there with them throwing javelins. When the woodsmen finally engage it’s a bloodbath that ends in a mass death fairly quickly. It works fantastic to say the least.

    It’s a little bit of a rocky start as Poland, as many of the surrounding lands are undeveloped. Patience and its excellent cavalry and low cost/upkeep woodsmen will see you securing as modest empire in the early game. Later you get Polish Knights, and Hussars, just to mention a few. They’ll see you own the world. If the HRE gets under your skin, after sending the 35th stack across your border like what happened to me, I did three raids against Nuremburg, Hamburg and the capital Frankfurt. I kept Hamburg. Sack and burned the other two. (Sell all buildings except church and let it rebel) After this they left me alone and I was able to continue my conquest of Russia/Scandinavia unhindered.

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    If you have any doubts about the Polish army then you either lack tactical sense or autoresolved everything. Well-used polish nobles will decimate anything, and surpasses the capabilities of Jinetes and Boyar sons from my personal experience.

    Lategame I adopted the strategy of "Polish Avalanche of Steel" -Polish Guards can actually do a headlong charge in FRONT, followed by Dismounted polish knights, and while your heavy cav. and infantry march Polish nobles and strelzy will harass the enemy and keep the missile fire away from your frontline knights. While the missile cavalry harasses and draws missle fire in spread-out formation Hussars rush to the enemy rear, and when the time is right have the polish guard charge headlong, directly followed by dism. polish knights, and at the same time hussar charge in the rear. This routes the most highly experienced stacks of whatever the enemy throws, with the exception of mass pike wall. Simply have all your cavalry flank in that case. Notice I do not use missile except those of missile cavalry, because Polish missile infantry are not really worth the dime and you do not want to be skirmishing a long time and let your infantry/cavalry die off to missle harassment.


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    Basic Polish Cavalry is Devastating to most other factions!

    Handled well they can do fantastic and amazing things. Almost as much fun as the Kats in RTW. All you need is a foot unit for taking cities.

    In my current game, a few turns ago, the Russians decided it was time to attack me, and surprised me with a stack of around 16 spear and archers. All that I had in the castle was 3 shooters a noble and a peasant. There was no help within two or three turns and I saw doom written on the walls…But then I took hope…if the enemy captain was in an archer unit I might have a chance. If I lost then I was just ending the battle a turn or two sooner and would make them pay for attacking me.

    Placing the peasants on the gate I charged out to meet the enemy…not directly but I had to run past all those archers. I think I lost one man and was soon behind his lines with my little force.

    His deployment allowed me to charge two archer units from behind on his right flank and they were soon routed with minimal losses. I regrouped and did the same on the left flank but one of my guys got tangled up with some spears and routed with only two men left. The other horse had cleared out the rest of his archers and the nobles had at last killed his leader, but the spears seemed to be holding fast.

    His weakest unit at this time was a spear on the left flank…(his left flank) that had hacked up my unit of shooters. I brought the two men that were now calm back out to shoot at this group as no one else had arrows left.

    I switched them to work on some of the stronger spears and formed up the nobles on the flank and my leaders shooters in the rear. I called back the unit chasseing the routing archers and then attacked the weak spears hoping to start a larger route. The spears were soon wiped out but still no route though they were not being very aggressive.

    When the unit on the right came back I had him hit a spear in the flank and attacked the left in the same way …these two unit routed and I chased them and hit another in the flank…this finally did the trick and the last units gave up the ghost… I had whipped a thousand may army with just about two hundred….WOW! Was it a fluke? And then I saw as I was chasseing routing spears that my units were still set to loose formation to avoid arrow fire!….what can I say.

    Then similar things happened against the Sicilians, Malian, and Denmark… So it was no fluke. These guys are amazing!


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    In current Poles campaign, I'm at war with HRE, Denmark, Venice and Hungary. I have no allies but I'm winning.

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    When fighting the Timurids I have found it best to boost the number of Polish Nobles in your stacks for elephant killing to about 8. Generals are worthless in these battles so it is best to just take your tried and true horsemen to the battle.

    Place your Shooters in open formation two ranks deep but in a double line. The depth and low density helps killing the units ahead of the elephants.

    With the Pns turn off the fire at will before the battle starts but keep them all in a place you can use them to support the archers when the elephants come. Two units will waste a formation of elephants in seconds and still have ammo left over to help later. Send only two Pns at a time to dispatch a unit of elephants. Ammunition is critical and should not be wasted.

    Once the elephants are all dead then the Pns become your knights to chase down infantry or help your archers caught in battle. When all the elephants are dead these guys are no better than anyone else and die really nicely.


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    Many empires found themselves bowing to the superior power of the Polish Hussaria!

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    this are my new polish troops.

    Miechowici, Polish Hellebardier, Mazowiak
    King's Banner 3 (coming soon)
    Add: 140 Banner, 500 shields, new units, new retinue, new generals, kings and heirs.
    Link to my thread:
    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117759


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