How are the Mongols doing in your campaign?

**Gampie** · 11-14-2006, 05:47

I'm playing with Scotland now and I'm 180 turns or so in the game. I have expanded carefully and built myself an elite army but when I lifted the fog of war with "toggle_fow" I saw that my empire was well overclassed by the Mongols. Ever since they arrived they have expanded ruthlessly, annihilating the Turks and Egypt. The entire Middle-East is under their control and loads of Mongol stacks roam the Levant. I'm glad that they are far away from my safe Highlands. I assume they'll end up as the most powerful faction when the year hits 1530 (=end of the game). My question now is: how are they doing in your campaign? Are they the dominant power in the Middle-East? Have you fought them? And how do they cope with the Timurids?

In my campaign the Mongols have a strong empire. The only immediate threat to them... are the Timurids. That's a bit ironic since the Timurids are supposed to be a danger for the islamic factions (including the territory of Anatolia). Now they arrived in the mountains of Armenia with several full stacks and they are constantly battling the Mongols even though historically Timur admired Genghis and claimed his legacy. I would bet on the Mongols since the Timurids haven't managed to capture a single city in ... what, 60 years? They arrived in 1362 or so and it's now 1432. And the Mongols have a large army to browbeat them into submission...

Btw, with all those armies there I don't think a christian crusade is ever going to succeed in capturing Jerusalem, hah.

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 11-14-2006, 06:09

Which armies are which in that screenshot? Mongols are gold, Timurids black?

**Sheogorath** · 11-14-2006, 06:14

I havent met them yet, as the Scotts, Spanish and English. I saw one army flash past the edge of the FOW, but it may have been Egyptian. They dont seem interested in Acre :P

**pyradyn** · 11-14-2006, 06:47

First off WHOA now thats a pretty bug empire and Id be a little afraid of them. Second I have to ask can Factions re-emerge in M2 or is it like RTW once they are gone are they gone, another question is when you kill a faction that some one is allied with can you get an alliance with there old enemy, and sorry one more question Is the pope killable and what happens when you take over the Papal States if factions re-emerge is he as annoying as before?

Thanks sorry for all the questions I get the game Tomorrow and Im a little hyped

**wraithdt** · 11-14-2006, 07:06

The Papacy cannot be destroyed at all. If the Pope loses his last province he'll just go insearch of a new one by requesting it from other Catholic nations. Whoever complies to his pleas will win great favor from the pope.

**Subedei** · 11-14-2006, 10:00

The Mongols kick in pretty heavy I think. The Turks had to deal with them on their eastern border...I guess that is why Byzanz moved their armies to their Ottoman border...and i guess that is why I [HRE] am going to move some of my soldiers to the Byz border to "take care"

of some of their territories in the meantime.

Go Ghengis...Go Ghengis....