Becoming the Pope

[Rhyfelwyr]

Just wondering, do you get any extra power if one of your Cardinals is elected as Pope? I suppose he goes to Rome and becomes the faction leader. Do you get control over Papal provinces, and get to excommunicate factions etc?

[Sir Boo]

Unfortunaty know you jsut get very liked by the pope thats reely it :D. Though your thoughts do soun d much cooler...

[Warluster]

And he lets you attack other nations sometime, I have had my Cardinal elected Pope about 5-8 times!

[Ares]

Just wondering, do you get any extra power if one of your Cardinals is elected as Pope? I suppose he goes to Rome and becomes the faction leader. Do you get control over Papal provinces, and get to excommunicate factions etc?

Unfortunately, no. All you get is that the pope will favor you more, but don't entirely count on that either, because even a pope from your own faction can end up hating you rather easily.

I wish you could excommunicate people and stuff. That'd be cool.

[Skott]

Having your Cardinal on the Pontif chair is a good thing. He'll let you get away with a bit more than if he wasnt from your faction. You can use that to your advantage. I love controlling the Papacy whenever I can.

[Warluster]

I have a mdo about the Pope we're you can excommunicate people,use inquisters stuff which the Pope does, you can even control the actual Pope, check it out, next version has new units,sttkements!

[Derfasciti]

Psshh! I got my cardinal elected, not even deliberately, and he loved me for like 10 turns or whatever. But then he told me to stop attacking the Scots or I'd be excommunicated... needless to say I got excommunicated!

[sapi]

sapi's guide to getting elected as Milan

Turn 1:
Empty your garrison armies and move towards florence

Turn 2:
Merge armies and march to the southern end of florence (the province)

Turn 3:
Smash the Papal State's army (the one without the pope in it), and get excommunicated in the process.

Turn 4:
Attack the remanents of the army you defeated last turn, which should be in reinforcement range of Rome.
Also, fight off the inevitible moorish/sicilian seabourne landing

Turn 5:
Take Rome and execute the pope.

Turns 6-?:
Kill every new pope that is elected until your cardinal is.

Simple ;)

NB: I take no responsibility for being attacked by all of the Christian world - after all, how else are you going to find an excuse to burn their cities to the ground and execute their troops?

[katank]

Awesome. Wow, that's something like 10 popes to burn through.

Do you have any luck making peace with the one you elect? A permanent excomm penalty to public order is pretty bad.

[Arkatsson]

Lol the Pope is going to die again and again.

[Hellenic_Hoplite]

what I usually do to gain favour with the pope is keep giving him "gifts" (AKA bribing him) of about 500 florins until me relations with him is perfect or near perfect needles to say I have been dominating the other catholic factions and the pope just looks the other way or excommunicates them.

[Warluster]

Yes! I just got about 7 cardinals in the college!And my relations with the Pope (My Spanish Pope,Im playing Spain) are 'Outstanding', I did that woithout gifts! WHOA!

[katank]

@ Warluster, what campaign difficulty is that on?

[sapi]

Awesome. Wow, that's something like 10 popes to burn through.

Do you have any luck making peace with the one you elect? A permanent excomm penalty to public order is pretty bad.

When your pope or one of your allies is elected, you automatically get reconciled, but i had no luck getting my first one to like me so i had to kill him too :(

Now i've got a master theologians guild and a cathedral in rome i've been able to pump out cardinals each turn

[Warluster]

@katank Well I sort of play um... well I play my first game on easy, so this is like a test game. I just started playing and I tried out the Spanish as a Test game. because i have to poke around testing it and.. I play it on easy. I KNOW! But I will play it on hard next campaign, I want to finish this one.

[FuzzyBunny]

I assume the goal is to have the most Cardinals with the highest Piety to become Pope, right? How does one get more Cardinals?

[sapi]

Basically, you just have to keep on the pope's good side and build buildings that enhance piety (the prime suspects are cathedrals and theologians guilds)

[Warluster]

Nope, the easy way to get heaps of Cardinals is to keep on the good side with the pope, and recruit hundreds of Priests, I have like 30 priests. And then send them off to Non-Christian lands in Flocks. What are Bishops in the game? I have about 2 Bishops!

[A. Smith]

there are 13 bishops in the entire game, and when one "retires" (dies, turns heretic, gets elected to popedom, etc.), the game picks a new one through the best non-bishop priests in the catholic factions. the more you have piety 5+ priests, the more you have a chance of getting one.

for the papal elections, there are 3 "preferati" that every catholic faction gets to vote for when the pope dies. these 3 preferati are the 3 highest piety bishops. Then, everyone votes, and the one with the most votes win. you can obviously rig the election, and you always vote for your own bishop.

[Warluster]

Cool, I have a bishop! YAY!I always vote for my own Bishop

[sapi]

@Smith, sorry to tell you, but you're wrong there - you're talking about Cardinals.

A bishop is created when you train a priest at a city with a Cathedral, and they automatically get +1 piety.

[FuzzyBunny]

Whats the difference between piety and purity?

[sapi]

Piety is a priest's primary attribute (it determines whether they get elected to cardinal, prefaratzi and finally pope) whereas purity is another trait they can gain to give them names such as Bill the Rightious

[FuzzyBunny]

Piety is a priest's primary attribute (it determines whether they get elected to cardinal, prefaratzi and finally pope) whereas purity is another trait they can gain to give them names such as Bill the Rightious

Do those names do anything usful, or are they just cool?

[sapi]

Well, purity and unorthodoxy are opposites, and if a priest has lots of purity he's more likey to resist being tried for heresy; conversly, if he has lots of unothrodoxy he's more likely to be killed and more likely to turn heretic if he fails to denounce one