rightttttttt

**knoddy** · 11-16-2006, 11:20

so playing my english camp, and lo and behold my cardinal in the holy land got an interesting ancillary....

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/knoddy/right.jpg

Cheers Knoddy

**Freedom Onanist** · 11-16-2006, 11:30

to be honest I find the whole retinue thing micro management hell. A good idea in principle but just too much effort to take much notice of for me. Especially the exchanging retinue members between characters. It would've been so much easier if you could simply have sent retinue members to other another character automatically, instead of having to be in the same stack. I know medieval times were dangerous, but you could've had a percentage chance of the retinue member not making it depending on the distance and lands they had to cross. Maybe even make them (and character traits) game options?

**Wandarah** · 11-16-2006, 11:37

I never bothered to manage them in Rome.

If you cant be bothered, dont do it. Control your overwhelming urges for uber-generals!

Besides, I thought your couldnt transfer in M2TW?

**Freedom Onanist** · 11-16-2006, 11:55

Yep, that's what it basically means for me - I don't bother.

I haven't tried transfering them in mtw2 to be honest.

**Daveybaby** · 11-16-2006, 11:56

You can transfer some of them, apparently. Most of them you cant, though.

Which is which i think we are supposed to work out by trial and error each time

What they should (IMNSHO) have done is made transferrable retinue members into actual full agent type people. Would've been quite cool to have special characters like marco polo wandering around the map at your whim.

**knoddy** · 11-16-2006, 12:00

i tried a couple of times with priests, hoping to get them pious enough to get promoted to cardinals, but the few times i tried it failed. i never did it in rome, cos it felt cheap, buffing up some 16 yo just come of age general so he had like all the uber retainers, was more fun going out and earning them :D

Cheers Knoddy

**Tadajon** · 11-16-2006, 12:09

If you could transfer them all, Marco Polo would live forever

**Aquitaine** · 11-16-2006, 15:06

There's a couple you should be able to but can't - I had a King find the Crown of Thorns, but when he died, I guess they just threw it out, you know 'what is this told thing? eh, toss it in the thames.'

**Bob the Insane** · 11-16-2006, 15:25

Originally Posted by Aquitaine

There's a couple you should be able to but can't - I had a King find the Crown of Thorns, but when he died, I guess they just threw it out, you know 'what is this told thing? eh, toss it in the thames.'

Why would the King want to give to anyone while he was alive? He was probably buried with it...

You know, so he could return it to it's rightful owner...

But for Marco Polo, if he is not transferable then that may be a bug as it looks as if he should be applied to a general and not a priest... Does the priest get the movement bonus?

**Spendius** · 11-16-2006, 16:54

Don't know if this has been posted, but I do want the same:

**Daveybaby** · 11-16-2006, 17:03

Placid.

Except, suspiciously, for a couple of days every month.

**Lord of the Isles** · 11-16-2006, 17:43

The only time I've had Marco Polo as a retainer, he was attached to an Admiral. The extra movement helped but the second benefit clearly suggested he shouldn't be going to an agent or Admiral (something like: enables your army to .... overland). Clearly a bug.

I've also had a Cardinal with the "secretly a female" trait but that's clearly deliberate imho. CA having a joke and I must admit I had laugh when I saw it.

**Spendius** · 11-16-2006, 17:48

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan

(From the 15th century) It was said that the Pope would have to sit on one of the seats naked, while a committee of cardinals peered through the hole from beneath, before declaring, "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes"