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    The official thread will be used to add more information about the faction.


    For now you can post anything you find useful including ideas for faction specific buildings, events, advisors etc MILITARY UNITS EXCLUDED - that is well researched and only later we will possibly need more details.

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    optional Georgian unit list for XV-XVIII c.:

    I. infantry

    1. peasants
    2. meisreni - archers/light
    3. methopheni - men at guns/light
    4. shubosanebi - spearmens/havy
    5. Aznaurebi - foot nobles/havy
    5. Khevsur infantry - havy infantry from mountain provinces
    6. light cavalry
    7. Megreli mkhedrebi - Mengrelian cavalry with guns/light
    8. methopheta mkhedrioni - gunners havy cavalry
    9. didebulebi - havy nobles cavalry/havy
    10. samepho razmi - royal guard cavalry/havy
    11. Khevsur's guard - havy infantry with guns
    12. Khevsur's cavalry - light cavalry
    13. mematrakhe - veteran cavalry/havy
    14. metsikhovneni - havy infantry with alebards

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    Gedonist those images are cool, but what exactly do they represent?
    Managing perceptions goes hand in hand with managing expectations - Masamune

    Pie is merely the power of the state intruding into the private lives of the working class. - Beirut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolkhi-2
    optional Georgian unit list for XV-XVIII c.:

    I. infantry

    1. peasants
    2. meisreni - archers/light
    3. methopheni - men at guns/light
    4. shubosanebi - spearmens/havy
    5. Aznaurebi - foot nobles/havy
    5. Khevsur infantry - havy infantry from mountain provinces
    6. light cavalry
    7. Megreli mkhedrebi - Mengrelian cavalry with guns/light
    8. methopheta mkhedrioni - gunners havy cavalry
    9. didebulebi - havy nobles cavalry/havy
    10. samepho razmi - royal guard cavalry/havy
    11. Khevsur's guard - havy infantry with guns
    12. Khevsur's cavalry - light cavalry
    13. mematrakhe - veteran cavalry/havy
    14. metsikhovneni - havy infantry with alebards


    Do you post in the OiM TW forum. I am there too and this roster reminds me that from Kartli/Imeritia out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    Gedonist those images are cool, but what exactly do they represent?
    As a person who collects antique swords, here is the answer: these are images from an exposition in St. petersburg's Ethnographic Museum, dedicated to the arms and armor of Caucasian and Central Asian peoples. The first photo is a mannequin of a Khevsur warrior with a typical buckler, palash and kindjal. Also note the rifle to his right. The second photo shows some nice palashes, the Khevsur swords which resemble shamshirs (as far as the hilt is concerned), a curved kindjal and Khevsur fighting rings. I do not see the game implications of the latter, but the rest of the images give a good idea about the general look of a Khevsur warrior. What is missing are the maille hauberks and helmets, covering the entire face of Khevsur warriors. I am not sure if this is true, but I have read that Khevsurs actually relied on maille to protect them from small caliber firearms and wore it until the 20th century.

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    Thanks. That was informative
    Managing perceptions goes hand in hand with managing expectations - Masamune

    Pie is merely the power of the state intruding into the private lives of the working class. - Beirut

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    Cegorach,

    when yhe mod is out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolkhi-2
    optional Georgian unit list for XV-XVIII c.:

    I. infantry

    1. peasants
    2. meisreni - archers/light
    3. methopheni - men at guns/light
    4. shubosanebi - spearmens/havy
    5. Aznaurebi - foot nobles/havy
    5. Khevsur infantry - havy infantry from mountain provinces
    6. light cavalry
    7. Megreli mkhedrebi - Mengrelian cavalry with guns/light
    8. methopheta mkhedrioni - gunners havy cavalry
    9. didebulebi - havy nobles cavalry/havy
    10. samepho razmi - royal guard cavalry/havy
    11. Khevsur's guard - havy infantry with guns
    12. Khevsur's cavalry - light cavalry
    13. mematrakhe - veteran cavalry/havy
    14. metsikhovneni - havy infantry with alebards


    Hmmm the list will have to be reduced.

    14 units are most likely just too many.


    I suggest to keep

    4 units of infantry - 1 militia, 1 gunners, 1 spearmen, 1 elite

    and 4 of cavalry.

    Also I will need more information - are you Kartveli from OiM forum ?

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    Default Re: Georgia

    Here is my earlier unit list for the period

    Shubosani Jari

    Samepo Razmi

    Mtiulebi

    Didebulebi

    Tavdi Mxedrebi

    Megreli Mkhedrebi



    Maybe you can make it more realistic - remember the timeperiod is 1570-1700, but I am also interested in earlier armies from 1480 so more information wouldn't hurt.
    Last edited by cegorach; 03-10-2007 at 18:44.

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    ok, this is short unit list:

    I. infantry

    1. shubosani jari - spearmens militiamen (spear+sword)
    2. methopeta jari - gunners militiamen (gunn+sword)
    3. mtiulebi - havy sword+gunn, highlanders
    4. aznaurebi - profesional, havy nobleman infantry (sword+gunn)
    5. kakheli methopeni - profesional gunners from Kakheti (Georgian eastern province, gunn+dagger)

    II. Cavalry

    1. megreli mkhedrebi - gunners cavalry, light
    2. didebulta mkhedroba - nobleman havy cavalry (spear+bow+sword)
    3. mtiulebis mkhedroba - higlander havy cavalry (sword+gunn)
    4. samepho razmi - royal guard cavalry (havy profesional cavalry, spear+sword+gunn)

    thet is more pretty, isn't ? :)

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