Special Items (eg Sword of Mohammed)

[troymclure]

In my turkish campaign one of my faction heirs had a "sword of mohammed". In his retinue, picture of a sword etc. etc. which gave it's bearer +1 piety and +2 command, it passes between leaders unlike any of the retinue members that are people.

Thought that was kind of cool, and something i havent' noticed from playing any other factions (spainish/scottish) anyone else found any more items like it?

[OMGLAZERS]

Assasians can get better blades, as well as Princesses can.

Thats all I know of.

[TigerVX]

My Assassin also got a Better Blade and Explosives, had full skill and was wreaking havoc among the Holy Roman Empire capital. Blowing up buildings (I can never get tired of that wmv), assassinating diplomatics, princesses, generals, and anything else in reach. However, he felt his demise when a prince opened a door in such a furious rage, that the assassin hiding behind had his skull crushed in. Such a shame.

But that item certainly sounds awesome! Albeit it, while I think the boosts maybe should be a bit bigger, I think its incredibly neat that you can attain the Sword of Muhammad and lead Islam to victory.

Hrm... I wonder if there's a Spear of Nazareth...

[Quin]

My general got a Spear of destiny after completing a crusade (in Antioch!, maybe its just a coincidence)...It says that its a legendary item and that the one who ownes it will rule the word but if he losses it, then he'll die. Must try if that's true )

[TigerVX]

My general got a Spear of destiny after completing a crusade (in Antioch!, maybe its just a coincidence)...It says that its a legendary item and that the one who ownes it will rule the word but if he losses it, then he'll die. Must try if that's true )

That my friend, is the Spear of Nazareth! The very spear that punctured the flesh of Christ, and was forever blessed! Thats really cool! (Also, the Spear -WAS- recovered in a cave in Antioch during a Crusade!) Wow, this is a pretty neat little feature. Don't lose that thing now

[Quin]

That my friend, is the Spear of Nazareth! The very spear that punctured the flesh of Christ, and was forever blessed! Thats really cool! (Also, the Spear -WAS- recovered in a cave in Antioch during a Crusade!) Wow, this is a pretty neat little feature. Don't lose that thing now

Yeah, I know that . That's why I wrote it was sort of funny when I got it after completing a crusade in Antioch.

[Burakius]

talking about special stuff.. yesterday I had a cool future

I was slaying hungary when all of a sudden the SON of their king said to me:

"Kill my father. He is an infidel who doesnt know how to rule this country. Kill him and we will fight side by side forever."

Well something along that lines. Thats a super cool future :D

[Bulawayo]

My Egyptian sultan got Muhammeds "holy mantle" with a piety of +2. But that is the only special item I have seen so far. Since the sultan is old I have already given it away to a younger general.

[Freedom Onanist]

(Also, the Spear -WAS- recovered in a cave in Antioch during a Crusade!) Wow, this is a pretty neat little feature. Don't lose that thing now

Strange how it was found by the crusade's leaders just when the crusade was besieged and hitting rock bottom morale. Hmm....

[Snarkfarfar]

I found the Holy Chalice after conquering Jerusalem. Only gives +1 piety though, kinda weak for such a legendary item :P

[Quin]

legendary items are somehow too weak IMHO. Also it would be great if, once found and then lost (say you didn't transfer them) they could randomly appear some time later in any province on the map.

As for the SOD...As I know it wasn't found in the cave but in the church floor of the Antioch's cathedral. It was excavated by Peter the Bartholomew (spelling) who had a vision that it was there. He later went under ordeal by fire to prove himself but died some days later after being badly burnt. It is true, though, that significant portoin of crusading army believed that the object he demonstrated was indeed the SOD (actually it was probably the head of roman standard) so morale went up and they were able to repel Muslims beseiging the city...

[Rothe]

I think it is pretty ok as it is now, I mean the effects of the items. After all, the game is mostly trying for realism.

However, I think that overall having transferrable special items makes the game a lot more versatile for modding. Arthurian mod can have Excalibur, giving a lot of boost to a generals hp valor etc.

Also, some fantasy mods might have enchanted items that are not necessary even unique.

[cambrax]

I found the Holy Chalice after conquering Jerusalem. Only gives +1 piety though, kinda weak for such a legendary item :P

Yeah, the same thing happened to me. I was a little surprised to only get +1 piety after recovering the holy grail! Still, I think they're a nice touch

[Kobal2fr]

Interesting story, I hadn't heard about that Spear of Destiny thing.

We have/had the same thing going in France with Joan of Arc (who else ? :) ). According to legend, during her travels at the head of her army she had a vision of a church and its altar. The church itself was insignificant if I remember clearly (small no-name village church, not say the Cathedral of Chartres), but they say that behind the altar she removed a paving slab and found a rusty sword. When she took it in her hands, the rust vanished. I can't remember whose sword it was supposed to be though.

Of course everyone deemed it a miracle, morale soared, the english were routed afterwards etc...

I've always wondered if it was an elaborate plot on the part of Joan :
- "oh, look, a church, let's go pray ! *shuffle shuffle* Guys ! I found a miraculous sword, isn't it neat ?!"
- "You planted that !"
- "Nu-uh !"
, or an "urban legend" dating from way back that was being retold.

And of course, there's the matter of the pieces of the True Cross, which were so numerous in Christendom the Cross must have been the size of a boat ;)

[Sir Robin]

For some reason the assassins I train in Constantinople after building the gunpowder building have Prototype Pistol. IIRC it gives a +1 to skill and +2 to order helping keep whatever city they are in peaceful.

Pretty odd but since they have not been much use in other ways its a nice plus.

[Comrade Alexeo]

We have/had the same thing going in France with Joan of Arc (who else ? :) ). According to legend, during her travels at the head of her army she had a vision of a church and its altar. The church itself was insignificant if I remember clearly (small no-name village church, not say the Cathedral of Chartres), but they say that behind the altar she removed a paving slab and found a rusty sword. When she took it in her hands, the rust vanished. I can't remember whose sword it was supposed to be though.

The sword was Charlemagne's, the "Father of France" - which was why it was so astounding that she found it.

[crpcarrot]

Yeah, I know that . That's why I wrote it was sort of funny when I got it after completing a crusade in Antioch.

IIRC when reading the first crusade forget the author the spear ( or a piece of metal dug up from a cathedral) was recovered during the seige of antioch. IIRC the leder of the peoples crusade (was it peter??) had a dream where the location was revealed to him. it was after this discovery that the christian army sallied out of the fort and defeated the muslim army beseiging them. so the game was correct as far i know cool! if i got my facts wrong my apologies. all the pots giving me a real bad memory

[myz]

can we transfer relics between generals? are the limit of retinues and items per each character still 8? Relics such as tooth, cross, spear, sword are transferrable? I know human attachments (retinues) cannot be transferred now. What about physical objects such as relics, weapons, items and such? all of you who own relics, can you try and tell me?

[hoetje]

I'd like to know that too,actually

[Stolpmeister]

It's not as spectacular as the Spear of Destiny, but my prince started out the campaign with this little trinket:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ster/relic.jpg

While we're on the subject of cool features, check out this crossdresser:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ossdresser.jpg

...and this senile old mentor obviously found the wrong person to attach himself to:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...ster/butch.jpg

[Dokusaru]

Playing on M/M (yeah, yeah) for my first game as England. After suffering unduly right off the bat at the hands of NPC Inquisitors burninating nearly all my Princes I decided to *make the Pope happy* above all else.

Well, gunpowder just hit and by now there is an English Pope and I've got a huge amount of Cardinals in the College. Only problem is the Pope and a good half of my Cardinals are secretly women! If this gets out there could be trouble...

[Kobal2fr]

The sword was Charlemagne's, the "Father of France" - which was why it was so astounding that she found it.

Makes sense. In my head it was a toss-up between Charlemagne's, Roland's (Charlemagne's best and most trusted knight) or Charles Martel's, all three men powerful symbols regarding what Joan was struggling to achieve - unification of the French provinces and their petty thinking into a collective "France" unity, a patriotic spirit, the concept of a nation...

Which makes it even more suspicious considering that SoD story - both leaders miraculously finding the precise item embodying the very cause and fervour they were trying to instill in their men... in places placing emphasis on their own faith/culture as opposed to that of their foes... Call me Mr. Skeptical Paranoid, but I smell propaganda

But then again, maybe both legends are merely early examples of retconning and revisionism - maybe none of that nonsense really happened, but later biased historians included them in their chronicles to make events appear as though they were meant to be, Dieu le veult, instead of them owing to the virtue of individuals...

Ah, well

[A jezy]

so if u have something like the sword of mohammed .can u pass it down to one of your sons?if so how ?

[troymclure]

Just confirming that the "Sword of Mohammed" does pass between family members. Same as in RTW just drag and drop the icon from one retinue to the other.

ps:- as someone else said, can't wait for some mods to come out using this feature. Artificact mod pak download anyone...?

[monkian]

One of my Assassins has the following (cant remember statsfor all )


*Experimental hand guns (skill and law bonus)
*Explosives(+2 sabotage)
*Catamite (+1 skill)
* Experienced Coutesan (+1 skill)
* Young apprentice (?)

He is teh awesome - killed most of Sicillian Royal Family

[pat the magnificent]

I actually just picked up an item called the "Pick of Destiny" while on crusade

apparently it lets my faction leader form the greatest rock band ever

[Faenaris]

I actually just picked up an item called the "Pick of Destiny" while on crusade

apparently it lets my faction leader form the greatest rock band ever

I just lol-ed when I read that.

[Roy1991]

I just got the Veil of Veronica, after a succesful crusade against Jerusalem.

[Oaty]

One of my Assassins has the following (cant remember statsfor all )


*Experimental hand guns (skill and law bonus)
*Explosives(+2 sabotage)
*Catamite (+1 skill)
* Experienced Coutesan (+1 skill)
* Young apprentice (?)

Should'nt it be used courtesan

[The Spartan (Returns)]

Interesting story, I hadn't heard about that Spear of Destiny thing.

We have/had the same thing going in France with Joan of Arc (who else ? :) ). According to legend, during her travels at the head of her army she had a vision of a church and its altar. The church itself was insignificant if I remember clearly (small no-name village church, not say the Cathedral of Chartres), but they say that behind the altar she removed a paving slab and found a rusty sword. When she took it in her hands, the rust vanished. I can't remember whose sword it was supposed to be though.

Of course everyone deemed it a miracle, morale soared, the english were routed afterwards etc...

I've always wondered if it was an elaborate plot on the part of Joan :
- "oh, look, a church, let's go pray ! *shuffle shuffle* Guys ! I found a miraculous sword, isn't it neat ?!"
- "You planted that !"
- "Nu-uh !"
, or an "urban legend" dating from way back that was being retold.

And of course, there's the matter of the pieces of the True Cross, which were so numerous in Christendom the Cross must have been the size of a boat ;)

i heard that story in the AOE2 Joan of Arc campaign. and there must be pieces of the True Cross.