Update to M2TW...

[edyzmedieval]

No, they are simply 2x2048.

http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/K...D2LLK2_2GN.pdf

These are the ones I am getting.

[sapi]

@beriut - because of some motherboards only have one set of dual channel slots, I doubt that you're going to see a pack of 4x1gb sticks; rather 2x2gb as eddyz indicated in order for them to work in dual channel

[Beirut]

Hmm, I didn't even know they made strips of 2048.

Sounds tasty. And expensive.

[sapi]

And pointless, under XP

[edyzmedieval]

Hmm, I didn't even know they made strips of 2048.

Sounds tasty. And expensive.

Believe me, I really had to WORK for these updates to my computer. Plus, I started earning money since last year, when I didn't get a beefed up computer. I helped my dad, and the result is a super computer.

[Lemur]

No, they are simply 2x2048.

http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/K...D2LLK2_2GN.pdf

These are the ones I am getting.

Curious, the PDF you linked to shows a 2 gig Kingston setup. Perhaps the wrong link?

[edyzmedieval]

I am getting 2 of those Lemur.

This will be my birthday present. A hardcore rig.

[edyzmedieval]

Well, inevitably, I had to "upgrade" even further. I've allocated some further cash and had to make some "requests for credit" to the bank. This will unfortunately mean that I will have to wave bye bye to any other gifts that I want until my birthday(in July).

HDD
DVD-RW unit
19" monitor
850W
water cooling

Something like this. Will raise the price seriously, but my old rig will dissapear completely.

[Slug For A Butt]

Don't sound so upset. Most people ONLY get gifts at christmas and birthdays.

[sapi]

Don't sound so upset. Most people ONLY get gifts at christmas and birthdays.

[edyzmedieval]

Don't sound so upset. Most people ONLY get gifts at christmas and birthdays.

I'm perfectly aware, but I wanted to change my 7 year old mobile phone, who looks absolutely horrible, with a new one.

[LeftEyeNine]

edzy, I have received a call from your father requesting a fake kidnapping by me.

Poor old man. I'll help him.

[edyzmedieval]

Well, I didnt receive any Christmas presents last year, because I told my dad to wait and give me some more cash to upgrade my comp. Does that count?

[LeftEyeNine]

Well, I didnt receive any Christmas presents last year, because I told my dad to wait and give me some more cash to upgrade my comp. Does that count?

I'll let your very father speak for himself on that account..Hey..

Oh..This is the first time I'm seeing one of my hostages falling asleep as soon as getting kidnapped..He has a peaceful smile on his face..What have you done to your dad, edyz?

I'll call back at you later on the issue...Ah..I mean when that man wants to end his best sleep evar.

[edyzmedieval]

Too much democracy hurts, ey LEN?

Ok back to topic.
How much is the cheapest Raptor available? My HDD has to go. It's extremely slow, even though it has 150GB left.

[edyzmedieval]

The best Raptor around here is something like 350 dollars. TONS if you ask me. WD 150GB, 10000 rpm.

An update. Something like bad news. The supplier wants all the money in a blast.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

19" monitor

You have to be kidding right? After all that your going with that monitor? Look I got a 19 inch with mine as it was all I could afford at the time. The Im sitting here in from of my wondefully expensive new pc and Im thinking to myself why did I spend all this money to get great graphics and watch it on this tiny screen? Your monitor is the real gateway to your gaming experience. Get a bigger one damn it. You wont regret it. You will regret that tiny thing

[sapi]

See, eddyz, I'm not the only one who thinks you're mad to play on a screen that size with that sort of hardware

[edyzmedieval]

Yeah, but a 22" inch here is about 1000 dollars. This is why.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Oh come on mine was $350 . Ill tell you what you pay the shipping and for a very nominal fee Ill send you one. I can get a 24 inch for like $600. Heck for 1000 I could get a 52 inch panasonic lcd hdtv and hook it up to that.

[edyzmedieval]

I found a sweet Phillips 23" LCD monitor, 12ms time, 16.7 million colours, 1900x1200 optimum resolution.

Price tag: 1800 US dollars.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

OMG is that over priced

12ms time,

I know you realise that sucks.

[Husar]

I just had to check that now and here I see a Philips 22" widescreen, 5ms, 16,7 million colours, 1000:1 contrast and 1680 x 1050 resolution for...289,90 EUR...
Maybe it's a bit inferior in resolution and has an inch less, but you know what I mean.

[Proletariat]

Allllllllways go with awesome stuff that you look at and touch and hear. Your speakers, mouse, keyboard and monitor are how you actually experience the game. I'd skimp on (almost) anything inside the box as long as the tangible stuff rules. Just my two cents, anyway

[Xiahou]

I have a 19" LCD that I'm totally happy with. It has a native res of 1280*1024 which allows me to run all current games (and probably all near-future games) without having to skimp on any of the graphical bells and whistles.

Another consideration is whether or not you intend to play any old games that don't support high resolutions. I recently tried to go back and play Starcraft and Diablo2 online with my brother and the amount of pixel zooming required made my eyes bleed. The higher the native resolution of your monitor, the worse these types of games will look on it.

Allllllllways go with awesome stuff that you look at and touch and hear. Your speakers, mouse, keyboard and monitor are how you actually experience the game. I'd skimp on (almost) anything inside the box as long as the tangible stuff rules. Just my two cents, anyway

I'm still guilty of using a crap $10 keyboard, anyone got any good recommendations that won't break the bank?

All of my other accessories are pretty good- I'm particularly pleased with my Razor Copperhead mouse.

[Proletariat]

I'm still guilty of using a crap $10 keyboard, anyone got any good recommendations that won't break the bank?

At 72$ this might be a little much, but I really liked this keyboard alot. The backlit feature is a must have for me with keyboards (matches the lights in my case :D and it's easier on the eyes in the dark), and it has a sorta nifty lcd screen that lets you do stuff like mess around with your play lists when you don't feel like alt-tabbing out of WoW or whatever.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126179

I saw them on sale at Best Buy for 30$ or so a month or two back... Maybe it was some promo thing, but I was kicking myself since I paid about 100$ something for it last year.

[Lemur]

I'm still guilty of using a crap $10 keyboard, anyone got any good recommendations that won't break the bank?

I've had good experiences with the Keytronic Lifetime series. I've heard plenty of people rave about the Microsoft "Natural" ergo keyboard.

[Husar]

I'm also using a crappy old keyboard from Toshiba, it's about as old as my case(I'm guessing around 10 years or so).
The Logitech G15 that prole recommends is nice, if you don't need the LCD, you can also get the G11, it's basically the same without the LCD and it costs less of course. I was thinking about getting either of them myself, because that old thing here is well, old(though it does have a windows key, when were these introduced again?).

[edyzmedieval]

I just had to check that now and here I see a Philips 22" widescreen, 5ms, 16,7 million colours, 1000:1 contrast and 1680 x 1050 resolution for...289,90 EUR...
Maybe it's a bit inferior in resolution and has an inch less, but you know what I mean.

You're joking. 300 euros for a 22"? Where do you live? At the factory?
That's super cheap.

Right now I have a superb ASUS 17" which has done it's job perfectly.

I use an A4 Tech wireless keyboard (25 dollars worth) and a 10$ mouse. I want to keep the keyboard and get a Razer Krait, or a Copperhead.

[Husar]

I have the Razer Krait, and I like it, especieally since I'm lefthanded, works really fine and is very fast, no need to move your hand across half the table anymore.

And erm, no, this is a shop close to where my parents live, but you can get similar prices almost anywhere here. Just last weekend I was in a big electronics store with my dad and we saw quite a few 22" monitors for <300EUR. There are more expensive ones which may offer more for the money, but it depends on your needs and sometimes you may just pay more for no additional worth. I think Philips isn't bad because they have a 3 year warranty that you get no pixel errors, but I'm not sure whether that applies to all of their monitors. I have a 17" Benq FP71V which cost around 270EUR about a year ago and it was a big step from my old 19" CRT which had a very bad contrast etc.
I actually got the 17" because it's the same resolution as a 19" on a smaller plane, which should make the picture less pixelated. And I wouldn't get such a huge widescreen for two reasons. First off, you'll always need more graphicspower to run native resolution and same settings as on a smaller screen, lowering resolution results in a worse picture. And second, the only real benefit of a widescreen IMO is that DVDs and some games are well, wider, but I personally like the 5:4 aspect ratio better, I never understood the widescreen hype.