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    Default Re: Am I the only one finding the battles boooooooring?

    1. In RTW the kill rate was too fast and the unit which charged was usually the winner after 2 secs. I almost never dound my self watching the moral of a fighting unit.

    In M2TW I must constantly keep an eye on the moral of fighting units and reinforce those that are wavering or shaken.

    2. In RTW I had a home rule. Never pause the game to give the AI a brake.

    In M2tw Iam many times forced to pause in many crucial moments.

    3. In both RTW and M2TW I was disappointed when I was attacked. The disappointment source in RTW was that I was forced to play another battle knowing that I was just win while in M2TW I am frustrated that the computer keeps pressure on me.

    4. The charge thing is true. In order to make a good charge you must move close your cavalry, organize it and then charge. If you just double click the enemy unit when the cav unit is 400 m away then the knights will just skirmish. But if you pay attention to your knights and organize them 50-60 meters before charging then the reward is a devastating sweep. It is realistic and when it is done right a knight unit can even take down almost entire units in 2-3 secs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakraal
    4. The charge thing is true. In order to make a good charge you must move close your cavalry, organize it and then charge. If you just double click the enemy unit when the cav unit is 400 m away then the knights will just skirmish. But if you pay attention to your knights and organize them 50-60 meters before charging then the reward is a devastating sweep. It is realistic and when it is done right a knight unit can even take down almost entire units in 2-3 secs.
    That you have to properly organize your knights to make a really devastating charge doesn't bother me in the slightest.

    That your knights suddendly lose all weight and all ability to push off the way lone infantrymen because they aren't in proper formation, this I have a problem.
    I often see men and horses skidding on the same place because blocked by a peasant, and that's just not right.

    Even disorganised, several horsemen arriving at full speed should have a kinetic effect and have an impact.
    It doesn't have to be devastating, but it should have an effect.
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    Yes, I do understand that you must set up knights well before charging. I have been doing this and I will admit that when they do get the charge right the effect is devastating. However, it is so infinetly difficult to get the exact setup it becomes incredibly frustrating trying to organise a charge. Even when you think "Yes, they're lined up well and all ready in formation with," you hit the charge button and sit back expecting to be amazed, only to be dissapointed when some knights get held up by arrow fire, "clipping" another unit, lone stragglers from disarraryed formations or any other a hundred tiny little things and the entire thing turns into a shambles. Sometimes it turns into a shambles without any visible reason.

    Besides the knights, I'd just like to ensure this stay on-topic; the unit spacing in combat drastically needs to be fixed. If you don't believe it does, then just look at the screenshots posted earlier in this thread. It's a sight that I'm getting too used to.
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    As stated and referred to earlier, problem shown in screenshots are easily solved during battle. I do not understand that the whole community was whining that RTW was too easy, now that MTW2 is slightly more difficult, they yet again they start whining that it is too difficult. The MORE I play MTW2, the LESS problem I have with unit spacing. It is a matter of control basically. It is not a bug.

    Even the cav charge using their spears you get with double clicking, depending on speed, distance, movement of enemy and wehter your cav comes out of melee.
    I cannot be the only one having that experience. Yup, more factors to consider, which makes it thank god more difficult to win battles.
    Last edited by Mordred; 11-19-2006 at 16:13.

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    Default Re: Am I the only one finding the battles boooooooring?

    I'm not "whining" because M2:TW is more difficult than R:TW. Quite the contrary, I am one of the TW-unique group of gamers that sighs with pleasure when they see AI-controlled armies completely dominate me with out-manouvering and effective attacks.

    But okay, taking a step back maybe the problem iswith the way I'm controlling my units. I have tried looking through threads and applying the notes on how units charge in the new game but I'm still getting the spacing problem. Care to tell/show me how you control your units to avoid this problem?

    Much appreciated,
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    Default Re: Am I the only one finding the battles boooooooring?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordred
    As stated and referred to earlier, problem shown in screenshots are easily solved during battle. I do not understand that the whole community was whining that RTW was too easy, now that MTW2 is slightly more difficult, they yet again they start whining that it is too difficult. The MORE I play MTW2, the LESS problem I have with unit spacing. It is a matter of control basically. It is not a bug.

    Even the cav charge using their spears you get with double clicking, depending on speed, distance, movement of enemy and wehter your cav comes out of melee.
    I cannot be the only one having that experience. Yup, more factors to consider, which makes it thank god more difficult to win battles.
    I don't recall anyone talking about difficulty.
    Maybe you would like to actually read a thread before patronizing, thank you.

    And the problem of "handful of dueling" is EVER present.
    Even when all the men are cluttered on top of others, just zoom in and notice that there is the majority of them doing nothing, and only a tiny minority actually fighting.
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