Is there any difference?

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yes I meant that too, and retroactive abortion as in the the traditional putting out newborn children to the wolves, prairie dogs or hyaenas as has been done practically throughout the history of mankind, or the Carthaginian "infant sacrifice" (IMO, that was no doubt just birth control but by roman history writers wrongly described as a ritual with religious content). But no retroactive abortion past say 1-3 months or so after birth, because then it's brutal murder IMO.

If your advocating that we return to the ways of old because of overpopulation then your sadly mistaken. You have lost your humanity.

Its murder once the baby draws breath no matter what attempt at justification one uses. If your concerned about overpopulation, advocation of sterilization, use of condomns, absentince from sex, etc. is a far better method then the "solution" you are advocating in this thread and several others.

This "solution" reminds me of theories of some rather despotic individuals, reminds me of views of Stalin, Hilter, and Mao.