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Sounds like a case of everybody being retarded. If the student had just done what he should right away nothing would have happened. At the same time the university police shouldn't have tazed him. It's not as if the officers were threatened in any way or that the guy was a threat to the other students, he was merely non compliant. If anything they should have just dragged him out, they certainly look like they could have just dragged him out instead of insisting he standup after being tazed.
Glad the others students started asking for badge numbers and information right away. Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them. The other students being threatened by campus security who just abused a student with a tazer is definate grounds for calling LAPD.
I wonder how safe it is to use tazers in a computer lab, I know if all my work disappeared because they caused a short or something I'd be pissed.
lol @ "Here's your patriot act," I would never shout something like that when being dragged out of a computer lab, does he think he's being dragged out for writing to terrorists via the internet or something?
Glad the others students started asking for badge numbers and information right away. Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them. The other students being threatened by campus security who just abused a student with a tazer is definate grounds for calling LAPD.
I wonder how safe it is to use tazers in a computer lab, I know if all my work disappeared because they caused a short or something I'd be pissed.
lol @ "Here's your patriot act," I would never shout something like that when being dragged out of a computer lab, does he think he's being dragged out for writing to terrorists via the internet or something?
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
You have to admit the police had an electrifying effect on the student.
Not what I was going for, but I'll admit: You have to have been lightning quick to pick that one up.You have to admit the police had an electrifying effect on the student.
Originally Posted by spmetla:
Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them.
I believe they were the real police, just stationed on campus.Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them.
Originally Posted by spmetla:
I wonder how safe it is to use tazers in a computer lab, I know if all my work disappeared because they caused a short or something I'd be pissed.
Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...I wonder how safe it is to use tazers in a computer lab, I know if all my work disappeared because they caused a short or something I'd be pissed.
Originally Posted by spmetla:
Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them. The other students being threatened by campus security who just abused a student with a tazer is definate grounds for calling LAPD.
In my experience, campus police are real cops, their jurisdiction is the campus grounds. They will work with city/county police as the circumstances dictate, but have full authority on campus.Not sure how University police have police power or anything but I'm surprised someone didn't call the real police on them. The other students being threatened by campus security who just abused a student with a tazer is definate grounds for calling LAPD.
As for other students calling the LAPD, not so sure that would be a good idea...
"We've got some students reporting police brutality at the campus."
"What?!? And we weren't invited? Grab the gear, lets move!"
Originally Posted by doc_bean:
Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
Ever lost a lot of important work that was stored on your computer? Trust me, for the first two hours after the incident, you'll be in the condition and mode to kill, either yourself or someone else. The second two hours will involve making angry phone calls, and after that, it's lots of crying.Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
Originally Posted by doc_bean:
Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
So much for winning Iranian hertz and mains.Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
Ever lost a lot of important work that was stored on your computer? Trust me, for the first two hours after the incident, you'll be in the condition and mode to kill, either yourself or someone else. The second two hours will involve making angry phone calls, and after that, it's lots of crying.
That’s a long time; I guess I am so use to it that I have gotten that range of emotions down to about 30 minutes. Ever lost a lot of important work that was stored on your computer? Trust me, for the first two hours after the incident, you'll be in the condition and mode to kill, either yourself or someone else. The second two hours will involve making angry phone calls, and after that, it's lots of crying.
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Originally Posted by doc_bean:
Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
They can be deadly if there used to shock someone repeatedly like that in the video. After the first person nearly died from a tazer the police departments stoped refering to them as "Non lethal force" and started refering it to "Less then lethal force". You have to remember the tazer is contracting every muscle in the body, your heart and other organs are muscle's. It's quite sad how police seem to get trigger happy with those when they hear it wont kill but it will hurt. Wasn't their an incident of a police officer using it on a junior high student a couple months ago?Nevermind that they're potentially lethal...
Also calling the police is definately called for. They are no longer officers of the peace when their actively brutalizing a student. Not to mention if they don't at least show you their badges you have no way to remotely prove that they are indeed police officers in the first place. Personally though I'd like to know if CA still has a citizens arrest.
He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles:
He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
...and thus, police can do what they want with him He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles:
He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
Thats not a reason to torcher and come close to killing the guy.He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
Ever lost a lot of important work that was stored on your computer? Trust me, for the first two hours after the incident, you'll be in the condition and mode to kill, either yourself or someone else. The second two hours will involve making angry phone calls, and after that, it's lots of crying.
Use back-ups, you shouldn't lose more then a days work. Not very nice, but hardly on the same level as being attacked with a taser.Ever lost a lot of important work that was stored on your computer? Trust me, for the first two hours after the incident, you'll be in the condition and mode to kill, either yourself or someone else. The second two hours will involve making angry phone calls, and after that, it's lots of crying.
Originally Posted by Prince of the Poodles:
He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
I thought you Americans didn't have an official ID ?? He shouldnt have been there in the first place without his ID.
Most people just have their driver's license don't they ?
Well, there's a $1,000,000,000,000 lawsuit in the making.
Both sides were wrong, though obviously one side more then the other. When grabbed by the cops, you don't fight back. They'll tazer/beat/club/mace/shoot you into submission as sure as night follows day. It's their raison d'etre. You fight back later after you've been released.
On the other hand, if the guy is cuffed and already been electrified and won't stand up, then you secure his feet with cuffs or quick ties and carry him out, you don't torture a non-threatening suspect him into compliance.
Both sides were wrong, though obviously one side more then the other. When grabbed by the cops, you don't fight back. They'll tazer/beat/club/mace/shoot you into submission as sure as night follows day. It's their raison d'etre. You fight back later after you've been released.
On the other hand, if the guy is cuffed and already been electrified and won't stand up, then you secure his feet with cuffs or quick ties and carry him out, you don't torture a non-threatening suspect him into compliance.
Originally Posted by doc_bean:
I thought you Americans didn't have an official ID ??
Most people just have their driver's license don't they ?
The university apparently has had problems with assaults in the library, so the policy was that after 11pm, students needed to have their college ID card to prove they were students, not a drivers license. The shockee did not have one when asked by the campus student patrol, and refused to leave. They promptly called the campus police.I thought you Americans didn't have an official ID ??
Most people just have their driver's license don't they ?
I am surprised that no one started yelling “Rodney King”!
Originally Posted by :
I am surprised that no one started yelling “Rodney King”!
THAT's the name I was groping for I am surprised that no one started yelling “Rodney King”!
[Deep breath, starts yelling....]
I wouldnt call the thing from tasers "pain" exactly. You also recover quickly from the initial juicing. He had every chance to stand up after that first tasering and was practically begging for more. Unfortunately the first tasering isnt clear on video, maybe it was uncalled for, but the subsequent taserings were called for. I also think the cops were unprofessional as they could have dragged him out quite easily
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
I wouldnt call the thing from tasers "pain" exactly.
Well, I guess silly tingles sounds better.I wouldnt call the thing from tasers "pain" exactly.
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
Well, I guess silly tingles sounds better.
Yeah, except it can kill you by "overdose."Well, I guess silly tingles sounds better.
MRD: So you believe that, should you hit the ground after a first tazer, the cops have the right to imagine you are perfectly okay and should be tazered up a dozen times or so in order for them to satisfy their empowerment?
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