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    Some sound advice from Geezer there. I agree entirely, with that strategy. You should try to improve the Gallowglasses morale as much as possible and try to use them as flankers. The best cav to use against Gallowglasses are the Royal Bodyguards or the Mounted Nobles. You can position defensively forceing the Huscarles to come to your Bonnachts, inflict as much damage with those, then charge them head on and in the flanks with your cavalry and bring the gallowglasses into the rear. They shouldn't last long. Unfortunately these sort of extreme measures are needed to deal with Huscarles as they're an insanely overpowered unit that can wipe the floor with anything else in that the opposition can throw at them. If you fight them one on one with any other unit you'll lose every time. A single Huscarle unit has the capacity to chew through about 4000 peasants, 3 units of Royal Bodyguard or about 5 units of Celtic warriors before breaking into a sweat.
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    I am not very experienced with this but i've heard that Irish dartmen, or any missile units, are very good against them. Hope that little tidbit helps.
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    Derfasciti is right - dartmen can do the job (as I discovered to my cost) - but Geezer57 is also right - the key is numbers!

    You need to be able to engineer a situation where you have a few expendable units to pin the huskies down so that your little armour piercing dudes can do their deadly work. Yes, you are going to suffer casualties - but you have to break a few eggs if you want to make a cake, right? Ideally these "pinners" need to have sufficiently high morale to cop the beating that they will have to wear...otherwise you are just courting disaster. So hold them still, then get your dartmen and bonnachts into position to rain death on the saxons.

    Another issue worth noting - Huscarles, with all of their heavy armour will tire a lot quicker than your speedy Irishmen. Run 'em around for a bit to wear them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    I am not very experienced with this but i've heard that Irish dartmen, or any missile units, are very good against them. Hope that little tidbit helps.
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    About those viking cav raiders, don't use them unless your the vikings or you desperatly need some fast cav. They are the worst cav in the game, only good for chasing routers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derfasciti
    I am not very experienced with this but i've heard that Irish dartmen, or any missile units, are very good against them. Hope that little tidbit helps.
    Dartmen throw darts, not javelins, so Bonnachts or Kerns would be better. The Bonnachts, being a full size unit, can hurl a full volley so they deal more potential damage. Also the javelins are armour piercing as opposed to darts which are not, IIRC.
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