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    You know when youve got a deadline looming and lots of work to do, almost anything seems more interesting than work...

    Part 1: Listed by Region

    British Isles
    Inverness -
    Edinburgh - Dyes
    Dublin - Silver
    Caernarvon - Coal(x3), Wool
    York - Iron, Coal(x2), Wool
    Nottingham - Dyes, Wool(x2)
    London - Dyes, Wool, Tin(x2)

    Scandinavia
    Arhus - Fish(x2), Amber
    Oslo - Fish(x2), Timber(x2), Furs, Iron, Amber
    Stockholm - Furs(x2), Amber(x2), Timber, Iron(x2), Silver, Slaves

    France
    Rennes - Grain, Wine
    Caen - Dyes, Timber
    Bruges - Dyes, Textiles
    Antwerp - Dyes, Textiles(x2)
    Angers - Wine(x2)
    Paris -
    Rheims - Iron, Coal, Timber
    Bordeaux - Dyes, Wine(x2)
    Toulouse - Dyes, Iron
    Marseille - Dyes, Wine
    Dijon - Iron, Coal, Wine(x2)
    Metz - Iron(x3), Grain, Timber

    Germany
    Staufen - Wine
    Frankfurt - Coal(x2)
    Bern - Timber
    Innsbruck -
    Nuremburg - Iron, Tin, Wine, Timber
    Magdeburg - Timber(x2)
    Hamburg - Silver

    Iberian Peninsula
    Pamplona - Wool, Marble
    Zaragoza - Iron
    Leon - Coal, Wool
    Toledo - Iron(x2)
    Lisbon - Tin(x2), Marble
    Cordoba - Coal(x2), Sugar
    Valencia -
    Granada -

    Italy
    Venice - Textiles(x2)
    Milan - Textiles(x2)
    Genoa - Textiles, Marble
    Bologna -
    Florence - Textiles, Marble, Tin
    Rome -
    Naples - Wool(x2), Grain
    Palermo - Amber, Sulphur, Sugar, Cotton
    Cagliari - Silver
    Ajaccio - Wine

    Balkans
    Budapest -
    Bran -
    Sofia - Timber
    Bucharest -
    Ragusa -
    Constantinople - Grain, Silk(x2), Dyes

    Baltics
    Stettin -
    Thorn -
    Riga - Amber(x2)
    Helsinki - Fish(x2), Furs(x2), Timber, Dyes
    Halych - Amber
    Cracow - Amber(x2), Silver, Sulphur
    Breslau - Timber
    Prague - Timber, Coal, Tin
    Vienna - Iron, Silver(x2), Timber, Dyes(x2)
    Zagreb - Iron(x2), Gold, Timber

    Greece etc
    Trebizond - Silver, Sulphur
    Thessalonica - Marble, Timber, Sulphur
    Nicaea - Silk(x2)
    Caesarea -
    Durazzo - Timber
    Iconium - Wool, Sulphur
    Adana - Sulphur
    Smyrna -
    Corinth -
    Nicosia - Marble
    Rhodes - Wine
    Iraklion - Timber

    Russia
    Novgorod - Amber, Furs(x2), Timber
    Vilnius - Amber(x2)
    Smolensk -
    Moscow - Furs(x2), Timber
    Ryazan - Timber
    Bulgar -
    Kiev - Slaves(x2), Sulphur
    Caffa - Slaves(x2), Sulphur
    Tbilisi - Slaves
    Iasi -
    Sarkel - Slaves

    Middle East
    Gaza - Textiles
    Jedda - Spices
    Jerusalem - Dyes
    Acre - Timber
    Antioch - Sugar(x2), Cotton(x2)
    Aleppo - Spices(x2)
    Edessa - Coal
    Mosul - Cotton(x2)
    Baghdad - Sulphur, Silk(x2)
    Damascus - Sugar
    Yerevan -

    North Africa
    Marrakesh - Iron(x2)
    Arguin - Ivory(x2), Gold, Slaves(x2)
    Timbuktu - Ivory(x2), Gold(x2), Slaves
    Algiers - Iron(x2)
    Tunis - Iron
    Tripoli - Fish
    Alexandria - Cotton, Sugar(x2), Spices
    Cairo - Sugar, Dyes
    Dongola - Slaves(x2), Ivory(x2)

    Americas
    Miccosukee - Coal, Tobacco
    Caribbean -
    Tlaxcala - Gold, Tobacco(x2), Dyes
    Cholula - Gold(x2), Chocolate(x2), Tobacco, Silver
    Tenochtitlan - Gold(x3), Chocolate(x3), Tobacco(x2), Silver, Dyes
    Fortaleza - Gold(x2), Chocolate, Tin, Iron, Dyes, Timber

    ???
    Valladolid - ???
    This is either in mexico or in spain. Cant find it on the map though
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    Part 2: Listed by resource

    Amber: 12
    Arhus, Oslo, Stockholm(x2), Palermo, Riga(x2), Halych, Cracow(x2), Novgorod, Vilnius(x2)

    Chocolate: 6
    Cholula(x2), Tenochtitlan(x3), Fortaleza

    Coal: 15
    Caernarvon(x3), York(x2), Rheims, Dijon, Frankfurt(x2), Leon, Cordoba(x2), Prague, Edessa, Miccosukee

    Cotton: 6
    Palermo, Antioch(x2), Mosul(x2), Alexandria

    Dyes: 18
    Edinburgh, Nottingham, London, Caen, Bruges, Antwerp, Bordeaux, Toulouse, Marseille, Constantinople, Helsinki, Vienna(x2), Jerusalem, Cairo, Tlaxcala, Tenochtitlan, Fortaleza

    Fish: 7
    Arhus(x2), Oslo(x2), Helsinki(x2), Tripoli

    Furs: 9
    Oslo, Stockholm(x2), Helsinki(x2), Novgorod(x2), Moscow(x2)

    Grain: 4
    Rennes, Metz, Naples, Constantinople

    Gold: 12
    Zagreb, Arguin, Timbuktu(x2), Tlaxcala, Cholula(x2), Tenochtitlan(x3), Fortaleza(x2)

    Iron: 22
    York, Oslo, Stockholm(x2), Rheims, Toulouse, Dijon, Metz(x3), Nuremburg, Zaragoza, Toledo(x2), Vienna, Zagreb(x2), Marrakesh(x2), Algiers(x2), Tunis, Fortaleza

    Ivory: 6
    Arguin(x2), Timbuktu(x2), Dongola(x2)

    Marble: 6
    Pamplona, Lisbon, Genoa, Florence, Thessalonica, Nicosia

    Silk: 6
    Constantinople(x2), Nicaea(x2), Baghdad(x2)

    Silver: 10
    Dublin, Stockholm, Hamburg, Cagliari, Vienna(x2), Trebizond, Cholula, Tenochtitlan, Cracow

    Slaves: 12
    Kiev(x2), Caffa(x2), Tbilisi, Sarkel, Arguin(x2), Timbuktu, Dongola(x2), Stockholm

    Spices: 3
    Jedda, Aleppo(x2)

    Sugar: 8
    Palermo, Antioch(x2), Damascus, Alexandria(x2), Cairo, Cordoba

    Sulphur: 8
    Palermo, Trebizond, Iconium, Adana, Kiev, Caffa, Baghdad, Cracow, Thessalonica

    Textiles: 10
    Bruges, Antwerp(x2), Venice(x2), Milan(x2), Genoa, Florence, Gaza

    Timber: 24
    Oslo(x2), Stockholm, Rheims, Metz, Bern, Nuremburg, Magdeburg(x2), Sofia, Helsinki, Breslau, Prague, Vienna, Zagreb, Thessalonica, Durazzo, Iraklion, Novgorod, Moscow, Ryazan, Acre, Fortaleza, Caen

    Tin: 8
    London(x2), Nuremburg, Lisbon(x2), Florence, Prague, Fortaleza

    Tobacco: 6
    Miccosukee, Tlaxcala(x2), Cholula, Tenochtitlan(x2)

    Wine: 12
    Rennes, Angers(x2), Bordeaux(x2), Marseille, Dijon(x2), Staufen, Nuremburg, Ajaccio, Rhodes

    Wool: 10
    Caernarvon, York, Nottingham(x2), London, Pamplona, Leon, Naples(x2), Iconium
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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Part 3: Analysis

    This was all done by eye from the campaign map, with some simple coding to extract the list by resource. I have probably missed a few things, so let me know if you spot any omissions. Ta.

    If youre trying to corner the market in a particular resource to gain a monopoly, and thus reap whatever bonus the game gives you as a result, the best choices would seem to be:

    Spices
    Grain

    followed closely by:

    Cotton
    Fish
    Ivory
    Marble
    Silk
    Sugar
    Sulphur
    Tin

    Once you discover the americas, obviously Chocolate and Tobacco should be fairly easy to monopolise.

    Anyone want to try to determine what bonus you actually get for having a monopoly? My brain is too fried to try right now.
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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Quote Originally Posted by Daveybaby
    You know when youve got a deadline looming and lots of work to do, almost anything seems more interesting than work...
    How true.

    However, there are large areas with very few resources. Interesting research.

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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Interesting stuff. Now all we need is a list telling the relative value of the different resources.

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    Good job, but the list is incomplete. There is definitely silver in Cracovia (I've even built a silver mine there) and there is also sulphur in the same province (just north of the city of Cracovia).

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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    I've compiled a preliminary list from my research. Not likely to be 100% accurate, but I think it should be pretty close. Hopefully we'll find out the definite order when we get the unpacker:


    Anyway, I also have an Excel spreadsheet with all resource locations, with an easy method for calculating the distance to each resource from any given point (just change the DistanceFrom coords). You can download it from here.
    Last edited by therother; 11-19-2006 at 20:45.
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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Quote Originally Posted by shifty157
    Interesting stuff. Now all we need is a list telling the relative value of the different resources.
    Think that'll have to wait until we can unpack the relevant data files after the patch - the final value is dependent on far too many things to even attempt to guess.

    Edit: I guess while i was typing this therother proved me wrong ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Zamoyski
    There is definitely silver in Cracovia (I've even built a silver mine there) and there is also sulphur in the same province (just north of the city of Cracovia).
    Nice catch. List updated. I'm sure there will be other omissions (notably Tin, which is pretty hard to spot) so keep em coming.

    Not sure how much actual use this list is, but its nice to have a hobby innit?
    Last edited by Daveybaby; 11-19-2006 at 20:51.

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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Great, stuff! Thanks Davey and therother. Hopefully with this I can get my merchants going in my English campaign. For whatever reason it's been much more difficult to get my merchants established with that faction than it was for either my French or Danish games.

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    Default Re: Trade Resource List

    Added a few more resources. Think the list is 100% now.

    Interestingly there are a couple of resources that are invisble on the map.
    Iron : 128,136 - Metz
    Timber : 105,129 - Caen
    Slaves : 167,182 - Stockholm (not actually invisible, but hidden behind the word 'Stockholm'.

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