Would You Pay for MultiPlayer?

**Myrddraal** · 11-20-2006, 15:50

But what about the casual MPer, who goes on rarely? Would he pay a montly suscription for 1 or two games? I doubt it. A better system could be a pay per day system, like you said, 25 cents or 13 pence a day is not much for a decent set of games.

If it cost 13p per day and you could order days like you do songs on iTunes, I'd pay, but not a monthly suscription.

I voted yes, but there's a but...

EDIT: I also voted !GAH Ichi GAH!, because I haven't seen that option in a long time

**t1master** · 11-20-2006, 16:07

i vote gah ichi gah! but i'd not pay to play totalwar online...

we can already make our own maps, and mods and historical battles. lobby stability i'd expect in a finished product, like m2 is, and i'd expect bugs to be fixed via patchs, and not ones you have to pay for.

**UglyandHasty** · 11-20-2006, 16:15

I wouldnt a canadian buck for it.

**hellenes** · 11-20-2006, 16:26

If they did this I would:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ighlight=MMOTW

**Monarch** · 11-20-2006, 16:49

rather than some random 13 year old "ZOMG U SUX0RZ"

Yes because everybody in the lobby, apart from your friends of course, runs around saying "zomg u zuxorz".

Wow, my second post in almost as many days asking people to stop generalising about the mp community...

**Lorenzo_H** · 11-20-2006, 17:15

NO NO NO and NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate Warcraft. I hate bloodsucking Game developers.

**Whacker** · 11-20-2006, 18:16

Originally Posted by Monarch

Yes because everybody in the lobby, apart from your friends of course, runs around saying "zomg u zuxorz".

Wow, my second post in almost as many days asking people to stop generalising about the mp community...

My intent was not to overgeneralize about the MP community, but the so called "mp community" for the total war series as of the past few years has yet to impress me. (please note I'm excluding the well-spoken, well-mannered, and honorable old school players who were very enjoyable to play with and against back in the STW and MTW days)

As I stated, most of the time I play with friends and coordinate with them over tools such as Teamspeak, etc. The times that I haven't done so and have just gone looking for a random game, I can summarize the experience as follows, especially in the RTW and RTW:BI lobbies:

1. With few exceptions, there's always someone or more than one person going off on a tirade about (select one or more) ethical groups using some very interesting and choice slurs, including some new made-up ones.

2. Individuals having long, drawn out political debates or country-bashing instead of playing the game.

3. An individual or individuals who repeatedly spams/floods advertisements to join their clan, with "no entrnce reqwirments!!11" or something to this effect.

4. On more than one occasion, I played a game where the individual(s) on the opposite team acted exactly like 13 year olds, with no sense of courtesy or honor. Hence my "zomg u sux0rz" statement. I've had teammates in ad-hoc battles who were exactly the same.

Of those bullets, 1 and 2 are by far the most popular. I can recall at best maybe two ad-hoc games I played where my opponents and teammates were all courteous and honorable. Don't get me wrong, there are people out there who are by and large fun to play with or against, and don't act like nincompoops, I just haven't had the luck of encountering them yet. And from my own experience, they appear to be very few and far between. And here we're talking about making a persistent online world with these people.... Before you come back and tell me "That's not how the TW MP community is!", I'm just telling you my experience. Just my $0.02 USD.

**Monarch** · 11-20-2006, 21:51

I wasn't disagreeing with you. There are some complete normans in the lobby. But the emphasis is on some, not all.

**Whacker** · 11-20-2006, 22:46

Originally Posted by Monarch

I wasn't disagreeing with you. There are some complete normans in the lobby. But the emphasis is on some, not all.

Agreed, and my apologies for the confusion and not making that clear in my post, I assumed that people wouldn't read into it. In general though, my MP experience hasn't generally been positive since RTW.

The bottom line to me for this thread is that I do not want to see the TW games go the way of being online only. Right now, it's a good balance of singleplayer and multiplayer wrapped up in a single package. While I do generally prefer the singleplayer experience, having good multiplayer is integral to enjoying the game in my opinion. The PBeM idea is outstanding yet can be slow in execution, and having a live multiplayer campaign would also be great. Hellenes started an MMO thread in the main forum in which he had a number of ideas along this line. While I like the *core* of his idea, an online *live* campaign map and whatnaught, the execution of his idea is what I object to, aka making it the required mode of play as opposed to an optional mode, and also being subscription based which I utterly abhor.

Cheers!

**Prince of the Poodles** · 11-20-2006, 23:06

I would have paid 50$ a month for Shogun and MTW MP.. I played them almost every weeknight unless I had something to do. In fact, in the heyday, i actually found myself cancelling social functions to play.

If they actually listened to players and fixed issues, made all games up to and including 4V4 lagless, and got the gameplay back to the level it was in the first two games, I would pay a lot to have that experience back. Ive never found it in another game.

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 11-20-2006, 22:23

Originally Posted by Whacker

My intent was not to overgeneralize about the MP community, but the so called "mp community" for the total war series as of the past few years has yet to impress me. (please note I'm excluding the well-spoken, well-mannered, and honorable old school players who were very enjoyable to play with and against back in the STW and MTW days)

As I stated, most of the time I play with friends and coordinate with them over tools such as Teamspeak, etc. The times that I haven't done so and have just gone looking for a random game, I can summarize the experience as follows, especially in the RTW and RTW:BI lobbies:

1. With few exceptions, there's always someone or more than one person going off on a tirade about (select one or more) ethical groups using some very interesting and choice slurs, including some new made-up ones.

2. Individuals having long, drawn out political debates or country-bashing instead of playing the game.

3. An individual or individuals who repeatedly spams/floods advertisements to join their clan, with "no entrnce reqwirments!!11" or something to this effect.

4. On more than one occasion, I played a game where the individual(s) on the opposite team acted exactly like 13 year olds, with no sense of courtesy or honor. Hence my "zomg u sux0rz" statement. I've had teammates in ad-hoc battles who were exactly the same.

Of those bullets, 1 and 2 are by far the most popular. I can recall at best maybe two ad-hoc games I played where my opponents and teammates were all courteous and honorable. Don't get me wrong, there are people out there who are by and large fun to play with or against, and don't act like nincompoops, I just haven't had the luck of encountering them yet. And from my own experience, they appear to be very few and far between. And here we're talking about making a persistent online world with these people.... Before you come back and tell me "That's not how the TW MP community is!", I'm just telling you my experience. Just my $0.02 USD.

of course m8, I'm a MP player and before I would have said "That not how the MP is", I realize, that it is,just that. IMO, when all the Vets, well not all, but most of them left TW for good, or just stuck around on the fourms like .org or their clan fourms and/or just did old school gamging on STW/MTW, then the newer players on RTW, didn't have no Elders, so to speak, to direct, or try to direct them in the "honorable" path so to speak. You end up with people who are impartial, stupid riviarlies, stupid arguments, chat bans,etc....