Would You Pay for MultiPlayer?

[UglyandHasty]

I dont know for the other players, but lowering my video setting to minimum have improve a lot the lag in the larger games(3vs3-4vs4). No difference in small game. Of course there's game that lag anyway ...

[YellowMelon]

Let's be honest, do we trust CA with our monthly fee? I mean ffs I bought the game and ALREADY multiplayer doesn't work for me and all their other customers who used steam and direct2drive. And instead of making an immediate fix for the problem they are waiting until the next patch, ridiculous.

Look at all those other games out there with automated ladders, community support. TW MP recieves little to no attention from CA and tbh they could probably do without the hastle, the only reason why they have it is because it is expected.

The COMMUNITY organizes everything, makes the tournaments, spends their time and money working because CA won't. They have an online system that doesn't even work, and then they would have you pay for the stability and features that should have been released with the game anyways? No, there is no way in crap that I would ever pay for online play.

People complain about MMOs when they p2p, but when you play those games there are updates and fixes bi-daily. There are people working the game to ensure that if there is a glitch they will come pull you out of a wall. Where was CA when my gamespy game went FAILED TO CONNECT FAILED TO CONNECT.

Alot of people know me as a very active MP community member, I love these games, but CA continues to provide baseline support for a small community that will probably continue to dwindle as the people who spend all their time and effort on trying to make a fun MP environment become disillusioned by the lack of ANYTHING given back to them. We can and will continue to run things better than CA. Heck, even the mods made by the community are better than CA could have ever hoped for. The only thing that keeps this MP community going is the poor souls that keep hoping that this great game will be better and not suck. Its like waiting around on xmas eve for santa and realizing he is not coming. He doesnt exist. (Sorry for spoiling it warman).

Rant/end

[Darkarbiter]

Let's be honest, do we trust CA with our monthly fee? I mean ffs I bought the game and ALREADY multiplayer doesn't work for me and all their other customers who used steam and direct2drive. And instead of making an immediate fix for the problem they are waiting until the next patch, ridiculous.

Look at all those other games out there with automated ladders, community support. TW MP recieves little to no attention from CA and tbh they could probably do without the hastle, the only reason why they have it is because it is expected.

The COMMUNITY organizes everything, makes the tournaments, spends their time and money working because CA won't. They have an online system that doesn't even work, and then they would have you pay for the stability and features that should have been released with the game anyways? No, there is no way in crap that I would ever pay for online play.

People complain about MMOs when they p2p, but when you play those games there are updates and fixes bi-daily. There are people working the game to ensure that if there is a glitch they will come pull you out of a wall. Where was CA when my gamespy game went FAILED TO CONNECT FAILED TO CONNECT.

Alot of people know me as a very active MP community member, I love these games, but CA continues to provide baseline support for a small community that will probably continue to dwindle as the people who spend all their time and effort on trying to make a fun MP environment become disillusioned by the lack of ANYTHING given back to them. We can and will continue to run things better than CA. Heck, even the mods made by the community are better than CA could have ever hoped for. The only thing that keeps this MP community going is the poor souls that keep hoping that this great game will be better and not suck. Its like waiting around on xmas eve for santa and realizing he is not coming. He doesnt exist. (Sorry for spoiling it warman).

Rant/end

That is truly terrible!!! CA not allowing Steam users to go online???!!!! /agreed about CA not giving a damn about MP either. Which reminds me of that person who said "NTW2 was screwing up gamespy and it would have to be shut down by CA". Even if it was (which it wasnt this person was speaking bullshit) I doubt CA would care.

Although CA doesnt really need to organise tornyments just hardcoding less stuff would be good and making different rooms for well respected large MP mods (RTR, NTW2 etc...) but even still they dont do that....

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Let's be honest, do we trust CA with our monthly fee? I mean ffs I bought the game and ALREADY multiplayer doesn't work for me and all their other customers who used steam and direct2drive. And instead of making an immediate fix for the problem they are waiting until the next patch, ridiculous.

Look at all those other games out there with automated ladders, community support. TW MP recieves little to no attention from CA and tbh they could probably do without the hastle, the only reason why they have it is because it is expected.

The COMMUNITY organizes everything, makes the tournaments, spends their time and money working because CA won't. They have an online system that doesn't even work, and then they would have you pay for the stability and features that should have been released with the game anyways? No, there is no way in crap that I would ever pay for online play.

People complain about MMOs when they p2p, but when you play those games there are updates and fixes bi-daily. There are people working the game to ensure that if there is a glitch they will come pull you out of a wall. Where was CA when my gamespy game went FAILED TO CONNECT FAILED TO CONNECT.

Alot of people know me as a very active MP community member, I love these games, but CA continues to provide baseline support for a small community that will probably continue to dwindle as the people who spend all their time and effort on trying to make a fun MP environment become disillusioned by the lack of ANYTHING given back to them. We can and will continue to run things better than CA. Heck, even the mods made by the community are better than CA could have ever hoped for. The only thing that keeps this MP community going is the poor souls that keep hoping that this great game will be better and not suck. Its like waiting around on xmas eve for santa and realizing he is not coming. He doesnt exist. (Sorry for spoiling it warman).

Rant/end

Hey,

lol Melon, I don't think Santa will be bring you a Yellow melon this year


Ok, Yes, Melon is right. If I would have said what he said, I proably would have got my 3rd warning point, because I would have said it bluntly. CA really doesn't care. I think, they want to "help" so to speak, to bring back the people, beause, god forbide if they don't have a MP, and if some MP players BS to a Game Magainze, like PC Gamer (US or UK Editions or both)or CGW then you going to be in touble,they are anyhow. They wonder why, "Hmmmm, why isn't Grey wolves active anymore?" "Hmmmmm, Why did Fearfulways split up" "hmmmmm, why isn't Kenchi here annymore" and "hmmmmm, where have all the good players went?", there you go. Shogun for example, He gave me such a hard time with everything, plus he didn't respond to half my PM's.. Plus, he posts alot at the MTW2 section when the Chat Ban was in Past last winter, but he didn't post in the Chat Ban Section for a few months. Hmmm, Why? That Why, I hate CA with such a Passion. The Communtiy have to bust our ass to make it what it is today. And Yet, NO Help from CA. WE, have to run CWB, WE, have to run CWC, WE, have to Run TWPL and everything else. What the Hell do we get in return? a MP that is dying and getting overrun with these Jackasses who don't know a god damn about Being Skillfull. IEveryone here can argee with Me and Melon, even the Most Honorable Players here, will also. You know why? If MP wasn't such a hell hole, It would be Such a Better Game. you would see Old Clans on, and the RTW clans on, and it would be a GREAT MP IF CA stops pissing around. know I'm proably going to get warned for this, but at this point, I don't care.I just have to vent.

[Morindin]

The reason you pay monthly for MMO's is because they are always releasing new content. New items, new levels, new areas, new monsters, new features, etc.

I would not pay monthly for any game that did not release new content, and M2TW type games do not fit the MMORPG model.

So no.

[Voigtkampf]

The reason you pay monthly for MMO's is because they are always releasing new content. New items, new levels, new areas, new monsters, new features, etc.

I would not pay monthly for any game that did not release new content, and M2TW type games do not fit the MMORPG model.

So no.

I play WoW and some other MP games, like BF2142 and similar.

There is a grave difference between a game like WoW and MTW2, for instance.

On my server alone, there are thousands of people logging in every day. Lots and lots of people, yeah. I pay the monthly fee for a developing game, where the engs must bust their kneecaps (though often people think they never do) holding everything together. In a MMORPG of the dimensions as WoW, you have a steady inflow of fixes, items, quests, new implemented ideas... The complexity of the game's system is mindblowing, even though sometimes only z0mg kids appear to play it (which is not true; z0mger suxxorz leeterz are verywhere, even in - how sad - TW games...), and the amount of things that could go wrong is outrageous.

MTW2, for better or worse, is a SP game primarily, and they would never muster a will or ability to support the MP community 10% (maybe even far less) of the output of the Blizzard crew. Also, do not forget that Blizzard people are being criticized everyday, and with much harsher tones than CA, even if you may think that's impossible. Example; item X is broke in WoW. Crowd flames Blizz. Somewhere in their dungeons, folks are testing item X until they find out the reason, they hurry to fix it while their supervisor lash them and rush them to be more effective. They introduce the fix at the regular weekly maintenances, at the same time registering dozens of new ones, working on them as well. They listen to suggestions, they communicate with the fans, even though they don't get it right all the time, they try.

I believe CA's respectable reply so far was "there is no bug; the bug exist only in your mind". After several months of bickering, the reply is "ok, that is not a bug, its a feature". And after a year or so, when that one traditional patch is out, they may even sort the issue at hand... And raise three new ones in the process...

Imagine CA responding to our complaints, fixing issues at hand, responding to our needs, organizing decent servers, stop desync MP issues and so on? Maybe add new maps every few weeks or introduce new features? I find it hardly to believe even in theory, AFAIK, folks in CA were doing work on some patches in their own spare time, unpaid and unsupported...

There is no critical mass for something of a grand scale of MP support as you would hope, for, Kukri-sama. If we had thousands and thousands players, maybe then, but not as the things stand now.

[hellenes]

I play WoW and some other MP games, like BF2142 and similar.

There is a grave difference between a game like WoW and MTW2, for instance.

On my server alone, there are thousands of people logging in every day. Lots and lots of people, yeah. I pay the monthly fee for a developing game, where the engs must bust their kneecaps (though often people think they never do) holding everything together. In a MMORPG of the dimensions as WoW, you have a steady inflow of fixes, items, quests, new implemented ideas... The complexity of the game's system is mindblowing, even though sometimes only z0mg kids appear to play it (which is not true; z0mger suxxorz leeterz are verywhere, even in - how sad - TW games...), and the amount of things that could go wrong is outrageous.

MTW2, for better or worse, is a SP game primarily, and they would never muster a will or ability to support the MP community 10% (maybe even far less) of the output of the Blizzard crew. Also, do not forget that Blizzard people are being criticized everyday, and with much harsher tones than CA, even if you may think that's impossible. Example; item X is broke in WoW. Crowd flames Blizz. Somewhere in their dungeons, folks are testing item X until they find out the reason, they hurry to fix it while their supervisor lash them and rush them to be more effective. They introduce the fix at the regular weekly maintenances, at the same time registering dozens of new ones, working on them as well. They listen to suggestions, they communicate with the fans, even though they don't get it right all the time, they try.

I believe CA's respectable reply so far was "there is no bug; the bug exist only in your mind". After several months of bickering, the reply is "ok, that is not a bug, its a feature". And after a year or so, when that one traditional patch is out, they may even sort the issue at hand... And raise three new ones in the process...

Imagine CA responding to our complaints, fixing issues at hand, responding to our needs, organizing decent servers, stop desync MP issues and so on? Maybe add new maps every few weeks or introduce new features? I find it hardly to believe even in theory, AFAIK, folks in CA were doing work on some patches in their own spare time, unpaid and unsupported...

There is no critical mass for something of a grand scale of MP support as you would hope, for, Kukri-sama. If we had thousands and thousands players, maybe then, but not as the things stand now.

Thats why piracy will kill companies like CA....
The 7 million people of WoW are there because there is no free alternative with private servers sucking big time....