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    Default Enemy spy opened gate...but storm the wall?

    As Hungary, my Budapest stone walled city was attacked by HRE full army.
    To my surprise, HRE spy was here and he opened the gate, which means HRE army do not need to storm the wall with tower/ladder.

    But AI decided to attack the wall instead of just walking through gate!

    I had 5 spears/2 archers/1 general while HRE had full stack of better troops.
    1 tower attacked left wall, 1 ladder attacked rigt wall, where each or Hungary spear defended, while remaining 3 spears stationed around gate.

    However, battles one the wall losing badly, I had to move all spears from gate to wall, making gate undefended (it's already opened by spy anyway.)

    But still AI do not attack through gate!

    AI's 3 trong cavalries didn't move, while archers(!) joined tower, where losed badly. After I succeeded repeling on the wall, AI just sit in front of gate and d noting. What a silly!

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    Default Re: Enemy spy opened gate...but storm the wall?

    Has anyone had an issue with trying to sally? I was besieged by the Hungarians (Smolensk, as the Russians) and tried to send out my kazak horse archers to pelt thier slow infantry. One unit made it out, and the other two just ran back and forth for the whole battle. They were not engaged, they were not on fire at will or skirmish, but they simply ran back and forth through the gates, ignoring my commands and in general being...infuriating. The enemy troops even ran through the gates once, and they did nothing. Kept running about in thier silly, head-bobbing manner. I had to charge with my general to rout the intruders. I ended up winning, but by a much closer margin than the battle had any right to be. Fraggglefarfnerthgrr...
    "Its just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. Then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns and also he got a racecar. Is any of this getting through to you?"

    --Fry, Futurama, the show that does not advocate the cool crime of robbery

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    Default Re: Siege's AI so dumb

    I am playing England currently.


    Milan broke their alliance and sent 2 full stacks against my city of Angers.


    the garrison? haha... 65 archers, and 300 spearmen, and my heir... sad...

    a spy opened my gates, but the Milanese marched to my walls and put up some ladders, and a seige tower... they sent the units that had manned the equipment up the ladders and the tower... i killed them, np, my troops were upgraded as high as they could go.

    you'd think they would send some more troops right? well, yes... and no... the AI (in all it's glory) tried to send EVERY SOLDIER UP THE LADDERS AT THE SAME TIME! i play the game, max settings, and dont slow down for anything, but all of the sudden, with 6k men struggling to get on some ladders, my frame rates plumet to like 1 every few seconds...

    they tried to get so many men on the ladders at the same time, noone got on the ladders, at all... after about 4 hours of doing stuff around the house, i came back... about 5 mins had gone by in the battle... the only differance? my archers are outta ammo... where are the Millanese? running and packing in around the ladders... man... seige AI sucks so bad... I have never had a probelm with the AI. who cares if they stand there for 1 or 2 battles in a war that lasts years? woopdy friggen do! vh/vh balances that all out in the end.

    i wish the AI gets fixed, and fast... according to the guys over at TW, they say the patch is 2 weeks away... so much for the "we will have a patch ready the day after the game is out"... oh well, this game will just be left to gather dust till that time... Sieges make up 50% of my battles... so, what is the point of playing when the AI cant get anything done right?

    other than the AI messing up in sieges, i love the game... that one litte thing ruins it tho.

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    Default Re: Siege's AI so dumb

    I've had this happen once or twice. I will say majority of the time the Ai does the right thing and just attacks me. Usually it uses it's catapaults first and then it's siege equipment. However once or twice when I charge out of my castle to take out there catapaults before it's to late they seem to sometimes not move for quite a bit. I've only played as Germans and Moors tho, and I will say AI seemed better when I played as Germans, seems to lack a bit more as I play the moors, though quite often the Ai has broken my gates, taken my cities, had bloody street battles so no major complaints.

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    Default Re: Enemy spy opened gate...but storm the wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaasbris
    To my surprise, HRE spy was here and he opened the gate, which means HRE army do not need to storm the wall with tower/ladder.

    But AI decided to attack the wall instead of just walking through gate!
    Yeah I've had this happen many times too, whats the point of their spy if they don't take advantage of the gates being opened. Something the next patch is sure to fix.

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