How do you Knights Templar/Hospitaller guilds?

[Xy1on]

Has anyone figured out what you gotta do to get offered these guilds?

[knoddy]

i have 2 hospitaller guilds. i got offered the first, not long after my crusade captured jerusalam, i was offered the st johns(i think) which is for hospitaller. at the time my family member in jerusalam had both, hospitaller and templar retiunes. soon i had it upgraded to the lv 3 guild. a little while later i decided to capture gaza, and a few turns after taking it i was again offered the hospitaller guild.

it should be noted that i did not have a family member in gaza at teh time, BUT i did have some hospitaller knights trained in jerusalam.

Cheers Knoddy

[Dooz]

Similar situation here. Took Tunis in a crusade, was offered St. John's chapterhouse (Hospitallers) at some point after. I took another castle in Africa and was offered the same at some point after. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten any Templar offers playing as England, which is unfortunate as I wanted them . In any case, I think you only get them offered in castle settlements, never cities.

[lars573]

I did. As England, took Damascus (a city). Got an offer for a St. John's chapter house. Then got another offer for Aleepo (a castle).

[Xy1on]

I was just offerd two hopitaller guilds in a row. I simply declared a crusade. Havent taken a city yet. I think you must have a fortress, and join a crusade to get them. Can anyone confirm?

[Dooz]

I did. As England, took Damascus (a city). Got an offer for a St. John's chapter house. Then got another offer for Aleepo (a castle).

Oh... then that sucks, I haven't gotten any Templar offers in a long time. Wonder what the requirement is.

[andrewt]

I got St. John's without doing any crusades. Got offered the upgraded version after a while. I think it might have been a few turns after I upgraded to fortress.

[big_boss120]

Do you need the leader to have high chivalry(or no dread at least) to get these guild???