Diplomacy is bugged

**Eques** · 11-21-2006, 13:22

Guys, i think allmost nobody is happy with diplomacy now. You know the reasons but i will place them anyway:

1- AI never not respects Aliances (if you dont pay for respetc, what is ridiculous)
2- If you share borders with AI it will allways declare war at you (even if they got a crapy situation, een if you can smach then, even if it is crazy)
3- AI blocks allied ports for no reason stargint a war it will certainly lose (i believe its a random attack, cuz its pretty stupid)
4- Sometimes you can ofer all your citys, tons of money, anything, AI wont accept a ceasefire, NEVER
5- The reputation sistem is useless, AI doesnt act acording to it. You may have the best relation with a factio and it will atack you for nor reason
6- AI doesnt see any difrence between attackers and defenders and you will lose reputation points anyway

I believe CA wont fix that till we report it as TERRIBLE BUGS. Complaint about diplomacy is useless so lets report it THE MAJOR BUG! Nothing hurts the gameplay as this stupid and sneaky AI.
So please, lets report it as a major bug, lets save this game... they wont fix the diplomacy if we dont do it.

**Lusted** · 11-21-2006, 13:33

[QUOTE=Eques]2- If you share borders with AI it will allways declare war at you (even if they got a crapy situation, een if you can smach then, even if it is crazy)c

Strange, i share borders with Hungary in my Venetian campaign for 70 tuirns and not been attacked. But yes generally the ai will attack you, as the game is set up as you vs the ai.

Originally Posted by Eques

4- Sometimes you can ofer all your citys, tons of money, anything, AI wont accept a ceasefire, NEVER

I get the ai to accept ceasfires all the time. But that's if i just beat ups its invading armies. If i go imnto its lands, capture all of its cities then it wont accept.

**Eques** · 11-21-2006, 13:40

Look, im not tearing the game apart. But you cant close your eyes and deny it! The Diplomacy is a JOKE. Stop saying it works cuz it doesnt. Acting like that, closing your eyes to all these many, many, many posts will keep the game bad. Sometimes defend CA is the best thing to do, but this time its like attack the game itself. Defend diplomacy systen is act as a fanboy, not ofense dude.
Dont close your eyes, see the foruns, you are a moderator, you know how many people hates diplomacy, why do you act like that?

**Lusted** · 11-21-2006, 14:00

Because i sometimes wonder if anyone has actually thought about diplomacy in the TW series. It has basically been the same throughout the series. Doesn't that make you think this is the way CA want the diplomacy to be. So that you can't just sit there in peace surrounded by allies, you have to fight, and be in WAR.

If you take the time to work on diplomacy, you can get long standing alliances(record for me: 168 turns as the English allied with the Scots.). You can get ceasfires if you dont beat up an enemy nation, as then you've just mad eth enenemy made towards you. Yes, the ai backstabs you. But the player backstabs the ai all the time. The ai is trying to stop you from winning, it is you vs the ai to conquer the world.

Just some thoughts.

**GeWee** · 11-21-2006, 14:09

Try lowering the campaign difficulty. The AI will be less agressive (suicidal) then.

**Eques** · 11-21-2006, 14:18

The reputation systen does not work in ANY LEVEL (BUG)
The only way to maintain any aliance is paying the AI (BUG)
The AI is losing all its setlements but does not accept a ceasefire (BUG)

Ah, its a waste of time. Im sure you all know my points. If you are happy with the game like it is now, go a head, ruin it. But this will be my last total war game if CA doesnt fix that.

**Dayve** · 11-21-2006, 14:23

I've only played 30 turns into a campaign because i only got the game yesterday, and it's wonderful... I like the way battles are longer, i like the skins, i like the effects and animations, i like everything, but 30 turns into my very first campaign and i can surely say that the AI is absolutely no improvement upon RTW or any other RTS game in history.

The first thing i did in my first campaign was make alliances... With everybody. As England, i allied with Scotland, France, the unholy unRoman non empire, the two factions north of Italy, the Danes and the two Spanish factions... I played peacefully, captured two rebel provinces, never attacked anyone, never sent spies into anyone, never assassinated, never did anything... Married my princess to some French dood...

Then, 20 or so turns in, i saw a rather suspicious French army looming at the border with Caen... One turn later, it stepped over the border... One more turn later, it laid siege to Caen while my (tiny) army on the continent had just captured a rebel province and so was very very weak...

I lost Caen, then i realised the Danes had actually broke the alliance with me in favour of France, who were the aggresors... Then the next turn they laid siege to the small town i had just captured from the rebels...

5 or so turns later my standing with the pope began to drop, even though i was the innocent party here...

Show me where to sign, i'll complain about this. If it's on the totalwar.com forums then i can't, i'm banned for life there, so somebody gonna have to post for me.

**Wandarah** · 11-21-2006, 14:42

Some fascinating insights.

Bad seller, would not recommend D-

**Dark_Magician** · 11-22-2006, 10:52

Originally Posted by Dayve

5 or so turns later my standing with the pope began to drop, even though i was the innocent party here... Bullcrap.

Show me where to sign, i'll complain about this. If it's on the totalwar.com forums then i can't, i'm banned for life there, so somebody gonna have to post for me.

Well, what do you expect from His Holyness? The French and the Danes both say they are just repulsing the attacks you have been long preparing. They act in precaution. After all everybody see you are pursuing expansionist military policies. One look at your "innocent" face expression is enough.