Some things I need in EB

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Ahh, another person tries to argue with the EB team, only to be told he is being "offensive" simply because he questions the one of the EB Gods team members who are of course, never wrong.

You don't need to be so offended when someone decides to question something.

Ten academics, from different parts of the world differing diciplines and different sources have all come to the same conclusion about our Triarii. If number eleven wants to argue he will need sources, he has provided none.

End of.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Ahh, another person tries to argue with the EB team, only to be told he is being "offensive" simply because he questions the one of the EB Gods team members who are of course, never wrong.

You don't need to be so offended when someone decides to question something.

And you needn't bear grudges and interject such grudges in the midst of a discussion about which you've got nothing else to add. The title of the post is mildly irritating to people who work like the dickens to make the mod in the first place, that's what WI was referring to and he clearly said it. You've raised another issue in another thread here today and there's no problem with doing so. Is the reply sufficiently to your liking and approval?

[Thaatu]

Even though I have nothing to do with the team, I do find the original post a little insulting and generally speaking "Some things I(!) need in EB" is a very bad title...

Considering that the EB team is now going 200 km/h trying to wrap up 0.8, people should atleast be polite.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Thankyou for articulating my thoughts, TK.

[Lord Condormanius]

I didn't show you my sources? Oh that's right, I just remembered: I don't give a crap.

This whole thing started as an observation until Wiggy and some other EB geniuses got offended. I don't know about you, but I don't have time to pour over every source (there aren't that many to begin with) for he sake of proving a point that I obviously don't care as much about as some people do.

You can make your mod however the hell you want. I just thought I would offer a friendly observation. If I had known that you guys were so perfect and unable to be criticized, I would not have bothered. It's hard for you to take me seriously? That's just something you're going to have to live with.

[Birka Viking]

I didn't show you my sources? Oh that's right, I just remembered: I don't give a crap.

This whole thing started as an observation until Wiggy and some other EB geniuses got offended. I don't know about you, but I don't have time to pour over every source (there aren't that many to begin with) for he sake of proving a point that I obviously don't care as much about as some people do.

You can make your mod however the hell you want. I just thought I would offer a friendly observation. If I had known that you guys were so perfect and unable to be criticized, I would not have bothered. It's hard for you to take me seriously? That's just something you're going to have to live with.

One question for u man...If u dont bother to find your sources for your statement...Why write something in the first place?????

[Lord Condormanius]

Two reasons:

1. I don't think that every comment a person makes needs sources. I don't normally sit around my computer with a bunch of ancient texts, at least not anymore. I feel confident enough in my knowledge and education to make certain statements. If anyone disagrees with me, so be it.

2. I am writing a dissertation on the 1916 Easter Rebellion in Dublin, and frankly, I don't have the time to go searching through sources, just to prove a point to someone whose only interest is belligerence. It is a waste of time that could be spent more fruitfully.

[Lord Condormanius]

Ahh, another person tries to argue with the EB team, only to be told he is being "offensive" simply because he questions the one of the EB Gods team members who are of course, never wrong.

I know I'm new here, but that seems to sum it up.

[Lord Condormanius]

I'm sorry if I used a colloquialism in the title that some folks took a little bit to heart. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous.

[Lord Condormanius]

Another reason would be that I was never asked nicely enough to consider it important.

[Foot]

I am really sorry, Lord Condormanius. This as really got out of hand, I'm afraid, and the EB team as a whole have come off in a bad light. Obviously your suggestions are serious ones, and you raise a valid argument (though as Wiggy has tried to explain, not a sound one), but I feel that our responses have been far too short with you, and I wish to apologise for this lack of civility.

Not in a method of defense, I must just say that your original post did come off as something of an unsupported, unconstructive criticism. Instead of asking why we had chosen the route we had chosen, you seemed to be saying that we were wrong, but without offering any evidence. That, plus the rather overpowering title may have got the whole debate off on the wrong foot.

Wigferth and others are historians, and they take it very seriously - that's why we have them - and your post seemed more in keeping with the vehemence of Fallen851 or Darkarbiter, and their put down may have been to harsh to compensate for this. I'm sorry that none of our other EB members (I include myself for that more than anyone in this mistake) had the thought of calming this situation down, asking everyone to restate their position, and continue from there in a far more relaxed way.

I cannot, and do not speak for the whole team, but I am sorry that things got this far, and you had to be subject to some rather scathing responses. I hope you are able to put this behind you, accept the apology, and keep posting as you obviously have a keen interest in this timeperiod (as do we) and are the kind of fan that we truly wish to cater for.

Foot

[Lord Condormanius]

Done and done.

[scourgeofrome]

I am really sorry, Lord Condormanius. This as really got out of hand, I'm afraid, and the EB team as a whole have come off in a bad light. Obviously your suggestions are serious ones, and you raise a valid argument (though as Wiggy has tried to explain, not a sound one), but I feel that our responses have been far too short with you, and I wish to apologise for this lack of civility.

Not in a method of defense, I must just say that your original post did come off as something of an unsupported, unconstructive criticism. Instead of asking why we had chosen the route we had chosen, you seemed to be saying that we were wrong, but without offering any evidence. That, plus the rather overpowering title may have got the whole debate off on the wrong foot.

Wigferth and others are historians, and they take it very seriously - that's why we have them - and your post seemed more in keeping with the vehemence of Fallen851 or Darkarbiter, and their put down may have been to harsh to compensate for this. I'm sorry that none of our other EB members (I include myself for that more than anyone in this mistake) had the thought of calming this situation down, asking everyone to restate their position, and continue from there in a far more relaxed way.

I cannot, and do not speak for the whole team, but I am sorry that things got this far, and you had to be subject to some rather scathing responses. I hope you are able to put this behind you, accept the apology, and keep posting as you obviously have a keen interest in this timeperiod (as do we) and are the kind of fan that we truly wish to cater for.

Foot

Ahh.How nice.Group hug you guys (and stop fighting)

[Zaknafien]

Foot is definately a 10-star diplomat, I'd say. LC, Id be more than happy to discuss roman military scholarship with you, and I'm always open to new ideas and research from *gasp* yes even modern scholars.

[Foot]

Foot is definately a 10-star diplomat, I'd say.

I've been in the same city to long

Foot

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'm perfectly willing to engage in debate but you have to understand that the tone of your first post was rather forceful and given the number of complaints we get from people who do not know what they are talking about we get a bit touchy when someone comes in and says "I want this in."

Not that I'm saying we can't take criticism, but you should understand that your post appears a certain way in light of the other stuff we get here.

[VandalCarthage]

This whole debate has been incredibly childless, and clearly less about discerning the facts than pissing. The title, by accepted social conventions, is fairly forceful, if not rude and pretentious. But beyond that, I believe the crux of the argument lies here:

This whole thing started as an observation until Wiggy and some other EB geniuses got offended. I don't know about you, but I don't have time to pour over every source (there aren't that many to begin with) for he sake of proving a point that I obviously don't care as much about as some people do.

If you don't give a crap, then shut up. If you're going to propose historical/technical changes to people who do give a crap, and have spent hours poring over sources, then you sure as hell better have done something similar. You, without providing any background our support for your argument, attempted to temporarily step into the role of an EB Team Member - something that everyone who makes a productive suggestion does - but then didn't bother to back yourself up. So, long story short, you don't go to a funeral in your boxers, cause, not only is it disrespectful, but more pertinant to you, you look like an idiot next to everyone else. If you really didn't give a crap, you wouldn't have come.

[Lord Condormanius]

Blah, blah...

I thought this thing was dead already.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

If you're not bothered about offending people and don't care about the topic you started why are you on the forum.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Nothing on this whole page 2 pertains to the original questions asked. Thread closed.