Some things I need in EB

**scourgeofrome** · 11-24-2006, 04:50

Originally Posted by Foot

I am really sorry, Lord Condormanius. This as really got out of hand, I'm afraid, and the EB team as a whole have come off in a bad light. Obviously your suggestions are serious ones, and you raise a valid argument (though as Wiggy has tried to explain, not a sound one), but I feel that our responses have been far too short with you, and I wish to apologise for this lack of civility.

Not in a method of defense, I must just say that your original post did come off as something of an unsupported, unconstructive criticism. Instead of asking why we had chosen the route we had chosen, you seemed to be saying that we were wrong, but without offering any evidence. That, plus the rather overpowering title may have got the whole debate off on the wrong foot.

Wigferth and others are historians, and they take it very seriously - that's why we have them - and your post seemed more in keeping with the vehemence of Fallen851 or Darkarbiter, and their put down may have been to harsh to compensate for this. I'm sorry that none of our other EB members (I include myself for that more than anyone in this mistake) had the thought of calming this situation down, asking everyone to restate their position, and continue from there in a far more relaxed way.

I cannot, and do not speak for the whole team, but I am sorry that things got this far, and you had to be subject to some rather scathing responses. I hope you are able to put this behind you, accept the apology, and keep posting as you obviously have a keen interest in this timeperiod (as do we) and are the kind of fan that we truly wish to cater for.

Foot

Ahh.How nice.Group hug you guys (and stop fighting)

**Zaknafien** · 11-24-2006, 04:58

Foot is definately a 10-star diplomat, I'd say. LC, Id be more than happy to discuss roman military scholarship with you, and I'm always open to new ideas and research from *gasp* yes even modern scholars.

**Foot** · 11-24-2006, 06:27

Originally Posted by Zaknafien

Foot is definately a 10-star diplomat, I'd say.

I've been in the same city to long

Foot

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-24-2006, 12:22

I'm perfectly willing to engage in debate but you have to understand that the tone of your first post was rather forceful and given the number of complaints we get from people who do not know what they are talking about we get a bit touchy when someone comes in and says "I want this in."

Not that I'm saying we can't take criticism, but you should understand that your post appears a certain way in light of the other stuff we get here.

**VandalCarthage** · 11-24-2006, 21:53

This whole debate has been incredibly childless, and clearly less about discerning the facts than pissing. The title, by accepted social conventions, is fairly forceful, if not rude and pretentious. But beyond that, I believe the crux of the argument lies here:

This whole thing started as an observation until Wiggy and some other EB geniuses got offended. I don't know about you, but I don't have time to pour over every source (there aren't that many to begin with) for he sake of proving a point that I obviously don't care as much about as some people do.

If you don't give a crap, then shut up. If you're going to propose historical/technical changes to people who do give a crap, and have spent hours poring over sources, then you sure as hell better have done something similar. You, without providing any background our support for your argument, attempted to temporarily step into the role of an EB Team Member - something that everyone who makes a productive suggestion does - but then didn't bother to back yourself up. So, long story short, you don't go to a funeral in your boxers, cause, not only is it disrespectful, but more pertinant to you, you look like an idiot next to everyone else. If you really didn't give a crap, you wouldn't have come.