How often do you lose battles?

**frogbeastegg** · 11-23-2006, 18:34

I haven't lost yet. I'm playing on very hard.

Did have a couple of close calls though, and I'm still only 28 and 41 turns into my two short campaigns.

**katank** · 11-23-2006, 18:54

I've lost 1 so far in my VH/VH English campaign (turn 39). I have all of Britain, France, western half of Germany, and most of Northern Italy and have been with constant war with 2-5 factions (5 right now).

I got jumped in Bruge by a Danish force. I only had 3 town militia units there and was surprised to see the amount of elite units by the Danes. Their stack wasn't that big (1/3 size but composed entirely of huscarls (both mounted and dismounted) and feudal knights (again both variants). My town militia got massacred.

Passive AI bug makes many battles with a missile heavy army ridiculously easy. I can routinely lose less than 10% of my force despite being outnumbered 2:1. Flaming catapults are useful for taking out mass formations and impacting their morale. I find the spear militia/armoured seargent hordes fielded by the AI early on quite easy to rout via missiles.

**Aracnid** · 11-25-2006, 21:18

Not counting my first campaign (on m/m), test battles, or realy unfair ones (e.g. me attacking a single generals unit trying to defend a city against a full stack) I would say I lose 10% of my battles. However that is realy uneven, I am England and providing equally numbers and odds I probably lose 40-50% of battles against the Mongols and Timurids and 2% against the French and Germans. Providing army make up is similar, heavy inf, archers, heavy cav no horse archers human nearly always wins, despite AI improvments, against eastern armies AI uses its advantages (it can run away from my heavy cav and inf and out shoot my archers (20 units vs. 5) to win a nearly half the time.

**ravinnder** · 11-26-2006, 12:06

I voted 10%.

In my M/VH campaigns I did pretty well, but I've learned that in general the AI is more dangerous in MTW2. However, I can say that the battles I've lost are due in part with the enemy outnumbering my army. Especially if the AI uses a heavy infantry based army without passive bug occurring and cohesively attacks your line.

I haven't been able to reproduce RTW type easy victories on VH except when I use Horse Archers and Heavy Cavalry or extensive use of gunpowder units. However, with gunpowder units, I find beating the AI too easy due to the ease of routing single units and the fact that the AI advances too slowly sometimes.