Units not in the game that should be?

[Spendius]

+1 for legendary generals/kings/crusaders. Joan of Arc, Charles Martel, Du Guesclin, Godfroy de Bouillon...

[anders]

the point about spear-armed english knights is good, from what ive read they used short spears, and indeed, without spears, how could they receive french cavalry charges with any luck?

[lars573]

What I usually hear, ad infintium, is that by the 13th century when a knight dismounted he forsook any sort of spear for a pole-axe. A great all rounder weapon. Capable of fighting cavalry, including recieve the charge. Dismounted English knights have such pole-axes.

[Spendius]

I miss naphta throwers (didn't play/fight the moors, maybe there are some ?)

[lars573]

This time they are only for Muslim factions, and called Naffatun.

[Werner]

Is it just me or did they forget to put Japan and China into M2TW? Where are the Huns? It seems kind of mysterious as to why their no where to be found. China had a crazy kind of cross bowman during the middle ages called a Chu Ko Nu that could shoot multiple bolts at once. They were short ranged weapons but could decimate legions of troops that were advancing. I also miss the large mass of different unique mercenary units you could find throughout the lands, maybe I just havent found the right place but I can only seem to recruit mercenary spearmen/crossbowmen/frankish knights. Where are the woodsmen and barbarians with the taunt special abilities? I miss this from RTW

As for special characters:
William Wallace, Genghis Khan, Barbarossa, Attila the Hun, El Cid

[lars573]

Kerns and Gallowglasses are in Scotland and Ireland. Welsh longbowmen and speamen too. In the low countries you can get Flemish pikemen, Swiss pikemen in Switzerland. Bulgarian brigands are all over the balkans, slav spearmen and archers as well. Alan cavalry, Cuman horse, Turkomans, Armenian cavalry, and archers in Asia minor. You can recruit some crusader units without a crusade around Rome. These are the none generic mercs I've come across.

[Kraxis]

Is it just me or did they forget to put Japan and China into M2TW? Where are the Huns?

Well... Why weren't all of Asia and Africa in Rome? Constraints on the gameworld... as simple as that.
And what goes to the Huns... I don't think that people who were around in the 3-400s will fit too well.

The Pronoiai Allagion from MTW are sorely missing in my opinion. They were the lighter, faster version of heavy cavalry for the Byzantines (compared to the Kataphracts). I suppose the Byz Lancers have been thrust into that position. But they can't match knights like the Pronoiai could. Like Feudal Knights these heavy cavalry were my favourites of MTW.

Aside from them I miss a heavy spearman unit. A units that can match all but the best melee infantry in... well melee. Of course it should be more expensive that those. Be they knights or sergeants or men at arms, I care not. But a spearunit that are a viable meleeunit is something I miss, as merc and armoured spears are simply not strong enough for my tastes. I guess I miss the Armoured Spearmen of VI and Gothic Sergeants of vanilla. They were perfect for my tastes.

Skutatoi... Hmm, yeah I guess I would like them.

[Grifman]

Is it just me or did they forget to put Japan and China into M2TW? Where are the Huns? It seems kind of mysterious as to why their no where to be found.

It's just you. Because exactly when did the English, French or HRE fight the Chinese? I must have missed that part of my medieval history lesson. And the Huns were no longer around by 1080 - so you must have missed that part

[Rameusb5]

+1 for legendary generals/kings/crusaders. Joan of Arc, Charles Martel, Du Guesclin, Godfroy de Bouillon...

While I also would like to see "legendary" characters pop up, Charles Martel died about 300 years before this game's time period. He was Charlemagne's Grandfather.


He was also probably the most influental person in Western History. Without him, Christianity would be a long lost (or extremely minor) religion.