M2 Test Imperial Orders Thread

[Strappy Horse]

Looking good Lucjan!
One minor thing, if I made a correct estimate of the construction costs, they are included in the totals for round 2, but I don't see them in the purchases column.

EDIT: Never mind, they were purchases from round 1, not round 2.
Still, is it usefull to change the format a little to show the purchases we've ordered for the last round?

[Lucjan]

Thanks Tamur.

And not sure what you mean Strappy Horse. Are you saying you want me to add a column that details what you spent money on last turn? Because reminding players what they spent their own money on could get rather lengthy, and I'm not entirely sure how helpful it'd be if the money is already spent. On the other hand, I could see the benefit of adding another column that just says "Last Turns Expenditures" with a total of that player's spent florins from the last turn. If that's what you meant to begin with, sorry, just a misunderstanding on my part.

EDIT - Considering all players will have access to the save file on a turn-by-turn basis for the purpose of reviewing their duchy and giving new orders, I think it shouldn't be a problem for players to be able to see where there money's gone. Again maybe I'm just confused.

[econ21]

...I could see the benefit of adding another column that just says "Last Turns Expenditures" with a total of that player's spent florins from the last turn.

Good idea and to make it easy, I suggest that in our orders phase, we each detail our proposed expenditures and provide the total to save you some work (and allow double checking for errors).

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Also, Lucjan, it might be good if you posted in bold caps:

TURN 2 ORDERS PHASE STARTS

and then 48 hours make another post later:

TURN 2 ORDERS PHASE ENDS

Each Duke should only make one post between your bookend posts, but we could edit them to revise them. Once you have closed the orders phase, then we are not allowed to edit our post (orders) anymore. Doing it this way might keep things tidy and easy to manage.

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Tamur: on the knights you wanted, I suggested that we formalise contracts in the orders phase. So you could type something like:

"Contract Vienna 1: Duke Leopold offers Duke Otto X florins for one unit of mailed knights, to be trained immediately."

And I would reply

"Contract Vienna 1: accepted."

And at the same time, I would give orders for the unit to be training.

That way, it's all in black and white for everyone to see.

As for what X is, I suggest purchase price 680 + 25% = 850

Sorry I did not do this last turn - I did ask you to formalise it and then you said something about mounted knights being no good defending in a siege. If it is the dismounted knights you want - which I agree are a more useful unit - they will require a castle be built in Innsbruck first.

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We really should start putting posts like this one of mine in the OOC thread and devoting this thread only to orders.

[Tamur]

(moving my reply to the ooc thread)

[Strappy Horse]

On the other hand, I could see the benefit of adding another column that just says "Last Turns Expenditures" with a total of that player's spent florins from the last turn.

That's what I meant, for the dukes, I think it's useful to see in one overview, 'this my income, these were my expenses, and this is what I have left' I agree with Econ21 though that the dukes can also show their expenses in their orders post.

[Tamur]

Duke Leopold's Orders for Turn 2:

Contract 1: Duke Leopold offers Duke Otto 600 florins for one unit of mounted sergeants, to be trained immediately.

Contract 2: Duke Leopold offers Duke Otto a gift of 400 florins to encourage the building of roads and/or farmland in Innsbruck.

Total expenditure: 1000 florins

[econ21]

Duke Otto's orders for turn 2

Contract 1: Accepted with thanks.

Order 1: Duke Otto to be moved just outside of Innsbruck.[1]

Order 2: In accordance with contract 1, one unit of mounted sergeants to be recruited. Once they appear in turn 3, they will be under the control and upkeep of Duke Leopold.

Total expenditure: TBC (once I check the game tonight)


[1]OOC: some folk saying being in a settlement with normal taxes on the turn something is built can give bad vices.

[TinCow]

Due to the previous status of my lands as Imperial property, the monies available to me are not entirely clear. However, assuming the same 200 florin tax is assessed on Nuremburg as on the other Ducal cities, that would leave me with 611 florins for the year. Assuming this is correct, my orders are as follows.

Duke Maximillian's Orders for Turn 2

Order 1: Taxes in Nuremburg are to be raised to Very High. Taxes may be lowered there without my permission if there is a serious (red) threat of civil disorder.

Order 2: Construction is to begin on a Grain Exchange (600 Florins)

Total expenditure: 600 Florins

[Strappy Horse]

Order for Emperor Heinrich for Turn 2


Construction of a Land clearence is to begin in Bologna, (600 florins)

[Lucjan]

Orders for Turn 2 Closed