Suggestion Regarding Junior Members and vB Code

**MSB** · 01-07-2007, 20:17

Hello everybody,
I was just thinking about our dear newbies - the Junior Members, who currently have no vB code due to the all new iframe code which could be dangerous in the hands of a Junior Bot.

A solution to this could be to open up a new forum and call it "The Introduction Forum" or something similar. Also a new member group could be set up to. It could be called "New Members" or something similar. What happens is that New Members automatically start as a "New Member". They can only post a new thread in the new forum and can do nothing else but that. Other user groups can post there, but cannot start new threads. They will, at this stage, have vB code turned off for them to prevent them from taking advantage of the iframe feature. They will also not have the edit button available either. After they have posted their new thread in this forum introducing themselves their account is automatically disabled and a PM is sent to all moderators asking them to read this member's post. The mods read it and then decide whether the individual is a bot or is a real member. If they decide on the former then the bot is instagibbed. If they decide on the latter then the human gets promoted to Junior Member. They then have access to vB code and all the forums that Junior Members currently have access to.

This is complex, but it could solve the problem with the vB code for Junior Members.

Hope this could work,
Avlvs

**The Stranger** · 01-07-2007, 20:59

hmmm... i guess that kinda sux when you really are a person... and you get disabled...

can bots answer questions?... if not its easier to PM them and ask them a question... when they answer it correctly theyre real...

**MSB** · 01-07-2007, 21:03

Perhaps a special promotion mod team could be set up to stop them from being disabled for too long.

**sapi** · 01-08-2007, 00:30

I think the best way around the issue is the one we have (that is, promoting JMs on a regular basis) and anything else might get a bit complicated...

**MSB** · 01-08-2007, 07:41

Sadly the promotions really are not regular enough to stop Junior Members from actually having these problems.

**sapi** · 01-08-2007, 13:07

vbcode isn't a necessity, and it's better that they have to live with the restriction than getting spam of dangerous off site images

**caravel** · 01-08-2007, 14:07

Originally Posted by Avlvs Libvrnivs Britannicvs Maximvs

Hello everybody,
I was just thinking about our dear newbies - the Junior Members, who currently have no vB code due to the all new iframe code which could be dangerous in the hands of a Junior Bot.

A solution to this could be to open up a new forum and call it "The Introduction Forum" or something similar. Also a new member group could be set up to. It could be called "New Members" or something similar. What happens is that New Members automatically start as a "New Member". They can only post a new thread in the new forum and can do nothing else but that. Other user groups can post there, but cannot start new threads. They will, at this stage, have vB code turned off for them to prevent them from taking advantage of the iframe feature. They will also not have the edit button available either. After they have posted their new thread in this forum introducing themselves their account is automatically disabled and a PM is sent to all moderators asking them to read this member's post. The mods read it and then decide whether the individual is a bot or is a real member. If they decide on the former then the bot is instagibbed. If they decide on the latter then the human gets promoted to Junior Member. They then have access to vB code and all the forums that Junior Members currently have access to.

This is complex, but it could solve the problem with the vB code for Junior Members.

Hope this could work,
Avlvs

That's kind of like the entrance hall system that was in effect in the past, though much more restrictive. In the past junior members could only post in the entrance hall and nowhere else until they'de been promoted to members IIRC. The problem with your idea is that creating yet another forum will only clutter and complicate matters. Also your proposed system seems overly paranoid and will deter people from actually registering at all. Then there's all of the groups and approval of members. Those new members after making their first post and finding that their account is disabled, may not bother coming back, in fact I'm sure that most of them won't. Combine all this with the extra work that the mods/admins will have approving and promoting members and it's unworkable. After that they've still got to get promoted on from junior member to member. It seems like a long and painful process, just to join a Total War messageboard. It also appears rank oriented and elitist to many outsiders who won't understand that the system is for controlling spambots. "Spammer/Bot until proven innocent" is not the way to go.