I would suggest the French as the 'goodies'. Mr. Kobal makes a good point about Louis, (he ran around keeping nobles 'in check' - i.e. breaking their castles) but 12th century France was 'where it was at' for noble deeds and scholarly thinking. This is how the Franks saw themselves. They also saw themselves as fierce warriors, leaders of the First Crusade, which meant some knights did a few less-than-noble deeds. Little bit of a contradiction, but I'm not gonna argue with the man with the broadsword...