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    Is it real?
    is-re-i-al, all I need is a t.
    Try to to spell correctly.

    Anyway, I hope that Israel doesn't blow this ceasefire by invading anything again.
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    I hope Israel gets a bunch of rockets shot at it during this ceasefire and takes the high ground by not making a big deal out of it or anything.

    All Israel needs is this emote for their neighbors
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    Neither side is exactly innocent...

    http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...1_%5bFeed%5d-2

    Sad, sad region that one. If one can get beyond the blame and start acting with humanity there's hope. I'm not optimistic.

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    God aren't they absolutily hopeless. Their desire for peace just isn't as strong as their need to kill. Give them their state and let them slaughter eachother, they like it too much so they will probably turn on eachother.

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    The Palestinians/Hamas need to stop firing rockets into Israel, problem solved.

    …violence in Gaza that has killed 300 Palestinians, scores of them civilians, and five Israelis.
    Look at that kill ratio, those rockets are doing a great job… of pissing off Israel. Does firing rockets at Israel do any good? Am I missing something here? What is the point in perpetuating a fight with a country they can never beat? Go tend your fields so that maybe you don’t have to be completely dependant on other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    The Palestinians/Hamas need to stop firing rockets into Israel, problem solved.


    Look at that kill ratio, those rockets are doing a great job… of pissing off Israel. Does firing rockets at Israel do any good? Am I missing something here? What is the point in perpetuating a fight with a country they can never beat? Go tend your fields so that maybe you don’t have to be completely dependant on other countries.
    Most people don't like it when they feel their country is being encroached upon.
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    JERUSALEM (AP) -- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered wide-ranging concessions if the Palestinians turn away from violence, saying Monday that they would be able to achieve an independent state in the West Bank and Gaza through real peace talks with Israel.
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

    These Israeli's just don't understand what a 'proportionate response' is, yet again


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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

    These Israeli's just don't understand what a 'proportionate response' is, yet again
    ...am I missing something? It sounds reasonable to me. Stop blowing us up, and we'll get you your own state

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER
    Most people don't like it when they feel their country is being encroached upon.
    That is one way to completily disregard the religious aspect of these attacks. Do not forget that Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are rabid fundie's that actually do want to drive the jews into the sea. A pretty popular sound there in poor innocent Palestina where people suffer so much. Both sides are completily nuts I might add, that whole area is one big psychotic episode on a plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    That is one way to completily disregard the religious aspect of these attacks. Do not forget that Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are rabid fundie's that actually do want to drive the jews into the sea. A pretty popular sound there in poor innocent Palestina where people suffer so much. Both sides are completily nuts I might add, that whole area is one big psychotic episode on a plane.
    agreed.....and to add to that I might say that having visited the area personally that there isn´t anything there nice enought to fight over...at least in my opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    agreed.....and to add to that I might say that having visited the area personally that there isn´t anything there nice enought to fight over...at least in my opinion...
    Quote from a British soldier serving in Palestine at the height of the Jewish-Arab rebellion that eventually resulted in us being kicked out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER
    Most people don't like it when they feel their country is being encroached upon.
    The problem is that the Palenstine people have no nation to be encroached upon, and the last attempt to create a Palenstine state ended in the current wave of violence between Israel and the Palenstine people because of groups like the two that launched rockets once again into Israel.

    Now which point of view of the history of Israel one wishes to take does not negate one simple fact in this instance. That the aggression after the announced ceasefire was not conducted by Israel.

    Sadly it doesn't bode well, but maybe Israel will show restraint and not retaliate as the public statement seems to indicate.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    That is one way to completily disregard the religious aspect of these attacks. Do not forget that Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are rabid fundie's that actually do want to drive the jews into the sea. A pretty popular sound there in poor innocent Palestina where people suffer so much. Both sides are completily nuts I might add, that whole area is one big psychotic episode on a plane.
    I was referring to both sides, but I will not say I disagree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    The problem is that the Palenstine people have no nation to be encroached upon, and the last attempt to create a Palenstine state ended in the current wave of violence between Israel and the Palenstine people because of groups like the two that launched rockets once again into Israel.

    Now which point of view of the history of Israel one wishes to take does not negate one simple fact in this instance. That the aggression after the announced ceasefire was not conducted by Israel.

    Sadly it doesn't bode well, but maybe Israel will show restraint and not retaliate as the public statement seems to indicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg
    The problem is that the Palenstine people have no nation to be encroached upon, and the last attempt to create a Palenstine state ended in the current wave of violence between Israel and the Palenstine people because of groups like the two that launched rockets once again into Israel.
    Really? I thought it was really the massive American Backing Isreal received. The Fact that Britain double-crossed the Arabs in one of our nations most shameful acts. I also thought it was to do with the fact that Isreal uses state terrorism and elects genocidal maniacs into power. If Isreal is based upon a kingdom that existed over a thousand years ago, I see no reason why the wrong doing of the zionists should be so lightly waved aside.

    The only way I can see Isreal ever being accepted is if they accept the wrong was originally theirs (many other peoples have accepted this why should Isreal be so different? American dollars?). And to allow the UN to sort this mess, out. Basically to go back to their Un Borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
    Basically to go back to their Un Borders.
    Apart from having not a chance in hell to happen, that is a logistical impossibility and a humanitarian nightmare.

    In such a volatile region as the Middle East, moving that many people (to where?) would invite genocidal maniacs to work their magic, among others. Do you really think it would solve any problem? If this hypothetical demand is accepted, the Israelis would likely be just as bitter as the Palestinians now, and would be just as willing to resort to mass violence and terrorism if necessary...

    ...a cycle, again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
    Really? I thought it was really the massive American Backing Isreal received.
    Rather amusing.....

    The Fact that Britain double-crossed the Arabs in one of our nations most shameful acts.
    Power politics at its finest.

    I also thought it was to do with the fact that Isreal uses state terrorism and elects genocidal maniacs into power. If Isreal is based upon a kingdom that existed over a thousand years ago, I see no reason why the wrong doing of the zionists should be so lightly waved aside.
    Valid point concerning Israel - but it does not negate the fact that Hammas does not want to accept Israel as a state. I don't wave the zionists actions aside, and neither do I accept the arguement that the Palenstine terror groups are blameless....

    The only way I can see Isreal ever being accepted is if they accept the wrong was originally theirs (many other peoples have accepted this why should Isreal be so different? American dollars?). And to allow the UN to sort this mess, out. Basically to go back to their Un Borders.
    Which is the current deal being worked out. Time will tell if the Palenstine people want to live in peace with their own state, or not.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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