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    It looks as though Scotland will vote for independence and secede from the UK.

    A majority of voters in both England and Scotland back the break-up of the United Kingdom, a poll has suggested.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6185652.stm

    Good. I'm all for it. At last we (English) will have to be recognised as a nation, also no more English subsidies for our friends in the north.

    Another interesting side effect will be no more Labour governments in England, their power base is after all north of the border. Oh....one more bonus. Mr 'grumpy' Brown, our pickpocketing Chancellor will have to bugger off back to Scotland (I would revoke his visa myself if I could ) and therefore would not be able to become the next Prime Minister.

    So is it a good thing or bad thing?
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    Well, we need their cotton so I guess we'll be backing Scotland in the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    Good. I'm all for it. At last we (English) will have to be recognised as a nation, also no more English subsidies for our friends in the north.

    Another interesting side effect will be no more Labour governments in England, their power base is after all north of the border. Oh....one more bonus. Mr 'grumpy' Brown, our pickpocketing Chancellor will have to bugger off back to Scotland (I would revoke his visa myself if I could ) and therefore would not be able to become the next Prime Minister.

    So is it a good thing or bad thing?
    Ah, feeling the love. I wouldn't treat those polls as definitive, and although it's
    been clear that Labour's been going all out to try and visibly talk down the
    Nationalist cause at the conference recently I'm not sure they'll have so much
    to panic about.

    That said, I'm undecided as yet. On the trivial side, it would be vaguely satisfying
    to finally be done with the Tories, at least in their current form, and certainly
    put an end to Malcolm's cause. What would you bang on about without Labour
    though? Gasp.
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    What would you bang on about without Labour
    though? Gasp.
    The Lib-Dems.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    I'm not too bothered either way. We'll both be part of the EU, so people will be able to move freely between the countries and work wherever they want, so if the Scots want to go to all of the trouble of setting up their own currency, government agencies, all the other country stuff, as well as losing their sizeable English subsidies, then so be it. Of course, if they wanted to stay I'd be equally happy that way.
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    Would this be a "domino effect" thingee? First Scotland, then Wales, then N.I.? Or would Scotland claim stewardship over N.I. ?

    How do the Royals figure into this equation? Isn't it a "unified" crown? Or was that just a parliament-passed law?

    To follow Sasaki Kojiro's idea: which of the four (Eng, Scot, Wales, NI) has more oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    Would this be a "domino effect" thingee? First Scotland, then Wales, then N.I.? Or would Scotland claim stewardship over N.I. ?

    How do the Royals figure into this equation? Isn't it a "unified" crown? Or was that just a parliament-passed law?

    To follow Sasaki Kojiro's idea: which of the four (Eng, Scot, Wales, NI) has more oil?
    England has the most MPs, who represent more grease than the North Sea could ever produce. That said, I've heard reports that the politicians north of the border are even more useless than those in Westminster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    How do the Royals figure into this equation? Isn't it a "unified" crown? Or was that just a parliament-passed law?
    It was unified, but ceased to be before the Acts of Union. I doubt that a newly 'indepedent' Scotland would bother with a monarchy after separation.

    Anyway, Scotland, go for it. Better late than never.

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