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    Is there any reason why Sega shouldn`t make the manual available for download. It would help promote sales. Most electronic manufacturesr of equipment now make a pdf manual available online..

    Just a suffestion.

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    Why would making the manual that comes with the game freely downloadable promote sales? Surely the only ones that do not have it are those that have illegally downloaded it... Manuals aren't of much use anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NihilisticCow
    Why would making the manual that comes with the game freely downloadable promote sales? Surely the only ones that do not have it are those that have illegally downloaded it... Manuals aren't of much use anyway.
    Good question and I`m glad you asked it. Normally the demo is enough to get an idea of how good a game is. However the TW demos only demonstrate the battles and give you little idea of the depth of the game. Clearly including a demo of the strategic part of the game would probably entail a horrendous download.

    I knw that copying of games is a serious problem but if you can copy a game then surely the pdf manual that comes with it can also be easily copied. Microsift have, I think, that Microsoft have resolved the problem of security with their new Flight Simulator X where you cannot actually fly more than you could in the demo without first registering on line and that means you cannot use the same DVD or any copy on any other computer. I`m not sure how unpoular that has been but I found the online registration very efficient and rapid.

    The reason that manuals are used in other contexts such as Audio equipment is to show the detail that has gone into the product. A pdf manual would be very quick to download and be a lot more convincing than the rather pathetic movie that Sega show.

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    I understand what you're saying, and though it won't promote sales, it'll certainly be a valuable resource, so i'm all for it.

    And as an aside, fsx, like every other game ever released, has been cracked. It's a fact of life, and one developers and honest players need to learn to manage.
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    i did read the manual online before i got the game, but i dont remember where though!

    i think it was the website where you can legally download the game if you are in the us, dont remember what that was though.

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    The Manual might help, I got RTW in Thailand and the Manual was in Thai so I had to learn to play without any aids...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KARTLOS
    i did read the manual online before i got the game, but i dont remember where though!

    i think it was the website where you can legally download the game if you are in the us, dont remember what that was though.

    I would love to download the game rather than wait for it to come with the inevitable risk of it being stolen on the way. I know the download exists because I have seen a Sega comment on how the downloaded version may conflict in multiplayer. If anybody knows could they please post or email me

    One other thing. I stand corrected. The latest set of stills that accompany Ken Turners articlr on combat are very impressive and show more than just battle scenes but a good variety of maps.


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    PS I also would like to know how to remove banners and green things. I saw a post a few days ago by chance but cannot locate it on search for the life of me.

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    Downloading the game is illegal and you won't get any help here.

    I'd steer clear of the topic if i were you.

    As for the green things, it's in the config file, and, irrc, it's pretty self explanitory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sapi
    Downloading the game is illegal and you won't get any help here.

    I'd steer clear of the topic if i were you.

    As for the green things, it's in the config file, and, irrc, it's pretty self explanitory.
    No downloading is not illegal if you pay for it. Quite a few games are available for sale against a credit card or paypal by reputable firms such as Gamespot.

    I`m surprised at your insinuation, If you came to my home you would see more than 100 paid for games that friends brought me fron the UK or successfully arrived by mail.

    Iwill look in the config file and I suspect its setting something to 0. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewmuir
    I would love to download the game rather than wait for it to come with the inevitable risk of it being stolen on the way. I know the download exists because I have seen a Sega comment on how the downloaded version may conflict in multiplayer. If anybody knows could they please post or email me
    So mail gets "lost" in Chile as well. I've had this problem alot in Peru, where I kind of expect it. I've only visited Chile briefly crossing the border to Arica. I can understand why you'd want to download it legally from Sega, as opposed to receving it by post. (In Peru, probably more than 90% of CDs, games, and DVDs are copies anyway so it wouldn't be much of an issue there as they're freely available in small shops and markets).

    If the .pdf manual is on the disc it should be available for download as well. If not, then it should only be available in paper form to deter piracy (not that it will deter piracy much as it never has in the past).
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    Check this thread for comments on a downloadable version of both the game and the manual (in PDf format). This requires that you have a Steam account.
    Last edited by Tamur; 11-29-2006 at 17:22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamur
    Check this thread for comments on a downloadable version of both the game and the manual (in PDf format). This requires that you have a Steam account.
    Thanks for the link. I The only issue I can see is whta may happen with patches etc. I
    Appreciate your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manco Capac
    So mail gets "lost" in Chile as well. I've had this problem alot in Peru, where I kind of expect it. I've only visited Chile briefly crossing the border to Arica. I can understand why you'd want to download it legally from Sega, as opposed to receving it by post. (In Peru, probably more than 90% of CDs, games, and DVDs are copies anyway so it wouldn't be much of an issue there as they're freely available in small shops and markets).
    It used to be trouble free and everything arrived at my local postoffice intact. But now I suspect there are people on the lookout for DVDs etc to copy and sell. I find that its best to have friends in `foreign parts`who can bring them.

    I`m now waiting for an apology from Sapi though I doubt that it will be forthcoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewmuir
    Good question and I`m glad you asked it. Normally the demo is enough to get an idea of how good a game is. However the TW demos only demonstrate the battles and give you little idea of the depth of the game. Clearly including a demo of the strategic part of the game would probably entail a horrendous download.

    I knw that copying of games is a serious problem but if you can copy a game then surely the pdf manual that comes with it can also be easily copied. Microsift have, I think, that Microsoft have resolved the problem of security with their new Flight Simulator X where you cannot actually fly more than you could in the demo without first registering on line and that means you cannot use the same DVD or any copy on any other computer. I`m not sure how unpoular that has been but I found the online registration very efficient and rapid.

    The reason that manuals are used in other contexts such as Audio equipment is to show the detail that has gone into the product. A pdf manual would be very quick to download and be a lot more convincing than the rather pathetic movie that Sega show.

    Andrew
    I do not think that on-line registration is a good idea; actually I think it should be illegal to do so. Personally I do not have an internet connection at all not because I can’t but because I do not want to. If I ever need internet browsing there are always other alternatives as an internet café or even my job’s internet connection. Why Microsoft or any other software manufacturer to oblige me to use internet connection in order to use their products ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Periklis
    I do not think that on-line registration is a good idea; actually I think it should be illegal to do so. Personally I do not have an internet connection at all not because I can’t but because I do not want to. If I ever need internet browsing there are always other alternatives as an internet café or even my job’s internet connection. Why Microsoft or any other software manufacturer to oblige me to use internet connection in order to use their products ?
    I have to second that. I have an internet connection at home since a month or so. Before I had only the connection at work. If I had to registrate online to be able to play computer games, I wouldn't have played any games at all for the last three years.

    If one's obliged to have an internet connection in order to be able to play (single player!) games, gaming would be an even more expensive hobby...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Periklis
    I do not think that on-line registration is a good idea; actually I think it should be illegal to do so. Personally I do not have an internet connection at all not because I can’t but because I do not want to. If I ever need internet browsing there are always other alternatives as an internet café or even my job’s internet connection. Why Microsoft or any other software manufacturer to oblige me to use internet connection in order to use their products ?
    In fairness I should add that Microsoft give you the alternative of phoning in to a special number.. How that works I am not sure because I have internet.

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