Marshal Graziani, his entire force surrendered to a British force about 1/10 the size after very few shots were fired. My survivability would be very high indeed!![]()
Marshal Graziani, his entire force surrendered to a British force about 1/10 the size after very few shots were fired. My survivability would be very high indeed!![]()
Leonadius, Alexander, Constantine.
Pericles, without question.
Julian the Apostate, most likely. Just in the hopes that I could keep him from taking that fatal spear hit during his campaign against the Sassanids, and keep him alive long enough to really let his suppression of christianity take root.
Fear nothing except in the certainty that you are your enemy's begetter and its only hope of healing. For everything that does evil is in pain.
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1. George Rogers Clark
2. Sir William Johnson
3. Hennery Morgan
4. Hugh O'Neal /Red Hugh O'Donnell
5. Nathan Bedford Forrest
6. Omar Bradley
7. Francis Marion
8. John Singleton Mosby
9. Xenophon
10. Robert the Bruce
This has little to do with what they fought for and more about what they were able to achieve….at least in some part of their careers
All causes and heroic notions are a waist. Soldiers fight for the man next to them. You want a commander willing to suffer the same fate as you and keep distractions to a minimum while trying to get through the mess you find your self in.
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and conceals from the stupid,
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If there's no good cause to march, why not just stay home?All causes and heroic notions are a waist. Soldiers fight for the man next to them. You want a commander willing to suffer the same fate as you and keep distractions to a minimum while trying to get through the mess you find your self in.
Fear nothing except in the certainty that you are your enemy's begetter and its only hope of healing. For everything that does evil is in pain.
-The Maestro Sartori, Imajica by Clive Barker
Since most times, the King's men/the secret police would come knocking on your door. Then you'd be lucky if you got to marchOriginally Posted by Musashi
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Yes, but the question is who would you choose to march with.
Fear nothing except in the certainty that you are your enemy's begetter and its only hope of healing. For everything that does evil is in pain.
-The Maestro Sartori, Imajica by Clive Barker
Hmmm nice question.
I suppose I'd march with Napoleon Bonaparte. This was a man that could really inspire his troops and I suppose I'd be under his spell too.
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I'd march with myself~make that Napoleon.
Guderian, Raus, Rommel(In Africa), Dietrich, and Kesselring are all on the list, but Manstein would be my first choice.
Grant. Preferably, in Sedgewick's corps.
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Ottavia Piccolomini? Maybe Prince Eugene wasn't the only one with gender issues :D
I'd like to meet:
Hywel Dda
Llewellyn the Last
Harold Godwinson
King John (the truly great English king)
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Saladin
Lorenzo de Medici
Cromwell
Banastre Tarleton
Marlborough and his crossdressing sidekick Eugene
Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem
Which time? In '43 or '45?Originally Posted by pleasy
Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem
1940.Originally Posted by Cangrande
Operation Compass
Graziani didn't surrender in 1940, although many of his troops were forced to. He was fortunate to escape and resigned his commission in '41 in disgrace after his defeat. He saw no further action until '43 when he stayed loyal to Mussolini and the RSI. He surrendered to the Americans in '45 to avoid summary execution by the Partisans.
Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem
The original post said that his force surrendered. With the army in enemy hands, what happens to its general is of little consequence.Originally Posted by Cangrande
Wellington during his Indian campaigns would have been an interesting leader.
That's an interesting list, Cangrande. Some are a wee bit baffling, but any Medici's a good Medici.Well.. almost.
Pompous, self-important, scheming, power-hungry, and the spit of his father to boot. That said, he certainly had his good points, and no body can deny that England's had worse men in the king department. Honestly wouldn't have marched with him though. Walking from London to York in 5 days only to have your head lopped off by some hairy bloke with an axe? Bugger that!Originally Posted by a few people
Unless that was subtle sarcasm, that just confuses the arse off me.Originally Posted by Cangrande
He might not have been as bad as some romanticists would paint him, but he was bloody brimming with flaws, and was such a bastard to everything with a pulse that I wouldn't touch him with a barge-pole.
Who you'd like to meet though? Good question, and probably warrants an entirely seperate thread!
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When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman? From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondsmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bound, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty. - John Ball
There was just a hint of irony in my selcting John :D
Militarily, yeah he was a bit of a disaster but his domestic reforms helped pave the way for the successes of his descendants.
Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem
Really? In that case shouldn't it have been 'I'd march with all the blokes who surrendered...', rather than Graziani who didn't and went on to lead his men to death and destruction? :DOriginally Posted by Pannonian
Qui desiderat pacem, bellum praeparat; nemo provocare ne offendere audet quem intelliget superiorem esse pugnaturem
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2. Louis II de Bourbon, prince de Conde
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I think Julian's problems weren't that he wasn't able to live long enough, but that people didn't really want a resurgence of paganism. They weren't fervent for it.Originally Posted by Musashi
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