Cornering inquisitors. Exploit or legal maneuver?

**Zenicetus** · 11-28-2006, 00:47

Originally Posted by afrit

I want to know what others think of using regular troops to surround and kill inquisitors. Do you feel it is an exploit or a legal "arresting the inquisitor" maneuver?]

I'm not an expert on the period, but I think it was exceedingly rare for an Inquisitor to target the king or heir of a powerful faction, or the general in a crusading army. It was also rare to target priests, except maybe in a few politically motivated cases that had nothing to do with heresy, per se (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbain_Grandier).

Therefore I think the "exploit" is justified and realistic. It represents the way a king's retinue would respond to a too-aggressive Inquisitor, who started stacking firewood at the door of a faction leader, or one who tried to interrupt a Crusader army. The Inquisition targeted mainly civilian and low-prestige targets, where there were plenty of easy pickings without angering the powers-that-be.

I'm not sure CA will actually alter the way Inquisitors target family members and crusading generals, since the manual does mention that Inquisitors might go after your faction leader. It will be interesting to see if they remove this "exploit" or not, in the first series of patches.

I do think Inquisitors add something to the game. It's a random risk element, like storms or pirates when you're traveling at sea. It wouldn't be the Medieval period without the Inquisition in the game. But some targets really should be off-limits, for the sake of realism.

**littlebktruck** · 11-28-2006, 01:45

I'd say it's an exploit, but considering that it's pretty much impossible to do accidentally, I don't think there's any real reason to fix it. If people want to use it, of course they're free to.

**Kraxis** · 11-28-2006, 01:53

Currently it is only an exploit if you are facing one or a few Inqs. However if you are fearing for the entire royal line then you should by all means do it. In fact I'm happy to hear about it, now I might also haev a chance in the beginning next time. And I might even use it when a Crusade-leader is in trouble (I really really hate inquisitions of them).

When they are nerfed a bit I would consider it an exploit.

But now the question remains, how do you feel about creating a wall, forcing the Inquisitor to go into 'enemy' lands and burn them. As it is I think I will try it out.

**Musashi** · 11-28-2006, 05:37

I used the trick on a Milanese merchant... but that's because it was like turn three and I checked his stats and he was like rank 7! I was like "Oh hell no!" and just used the corner and squash trick.

**Oaty** · 11-28-2006, 11:08

This exploit has been in since RTW.

Probably the fix for it will allow the agents to walk through armies instead of being blocked.....hopefully. As in RTW I'd occasionally pay the toll to get my diplomat through. Funny thing is the army made so much from the toll they dissapeared, I guess early retirement or something.

I never abused it but is much more needed at least until the patch. So far I've used it on inquisitors for sensesless stuff, killing royal blood, a 7 piety cardinal. Annoying asassins that have failed 5 times but still didnt die from thier failure. And of course merchants of lower rank taking out my higher ranked merchant.

I was fine with AI merchants until I found found out that lower ranked ones can easily take out yours, plus if the AI fails theres a 50/50 chance you will pick up a negative trait instead of a positive one. Really if I could'nt exploit it I'd have to ignore the merchants in the game all together.

**Kraxis** · 11-28-2006, 14:25

Originally Posted by Oaty

plus if the AI fails theres a 50/50 chance you will pick up a negative trait instead of a positive one.

Really? I haven't gotten a single negative trait from 'winning' such fights (save the 'enemies' trait for big killers).

**danfda** · 11-28-2006, 15:27

Originally Posted by Kraxis

Really? I haven't gotten a single negative trait from 'winning' such fights (save the 'enemies' trait for big killers).

Niether have I. And I have also found that merchants are much better on the offensive--a low ranked guy of mine can kill a high ranked foreign merchant easier than my high ranked mercant can defend. So, I've adopted the first strike doctrine for my merchants...