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    Clan Takiyama Senior Member R'as al Ghul's Avatar
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    Default Heretics 'R us - Reconciliation

    Hello,

    I've come to a difficult situation in my second Venice campaign (vh/h). I've to say it's probably the toughest campaign in Medieval 1&2 so far.
    After being allied to the pope for about 100 turns I made a few mistakes.
    First I neglected the Priests, I just didn't build any, resulting in no cardinals in the college of cardinals. The second mistake was trying to assassinate the Pope. The attempt failed and the Assassin was discovered, bang, insta-excommunication.
    Killing the 3 subsequent Popes didn't help as did taking Rome and killing the Pope in battle several times. Atm the college of cardinals is empty and the Pope is German. Boy, does he love to harrass me.
    Needless to say that all my neighbours declared war, their enemy agents swarm me, the plague is decimating my population, I have riots or near riots in most of my cities and I'm starting to loose my strong position.
    My territories include all of Italy and Greece + Constantinople and Innsbruck.

    My question is how it's possible to be reconciled? What do I need to do?
    I've offered territory, ceasefires, trade alliances, tribute, single payment in varying heights. Is there a chance that my Priests get promoted?
    I've the feeling that I'm doomed. I've only 20 regions, no trading partners and still need to conquer 25 territories.
    The turn is 120 and I've 3 strong castles at Ragusa, Palermo and Innsbruck. All cities are at least large and well developed.

    R'as

    P.S.: I'd also like to hear your stories on how you got along with the pope and how you've achieved to be reconciled.

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    Just an Oldfart Member Basileus's Avatar
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    Default Re: Heretics 'R us - Reconciliation

    Start building Priests and send them in low Catholic lands and just wait out the pope untill he dies, your situation is tough now though heh :p

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    Default Re: Heretics 'R us - Reconciliation

    I just told my story in another Pope-thread:


    The Pope/excommunication-discussion is really interresting... Maybe the moderators could merge the many threads on this issue or something?

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    Grab your faction leader, march off toward the biggest stack of enemy forces you can find, and have him charge. The enemy will take care of the rest.
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    Clan Takiyama Senior Member R'as al Ghul's Avatar
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    Default Re: Heretics 'R us - Reconciliation

    Killing off my faction leader doesn't change anything, I'm afraid.
    He died from the plague or was assassinated after being excommunicated.
    The Pope still wants to see me burn in hell. I had his port blockaded when that happened.
    I wonder If I hadn't would that have changed anything?
    Remember the Papal states declared war when I was excommunicated.


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