Heretics 'R us - Reconciliation

**R'as al Ghul** · 11-28-2006, 13:01

Killing off my faction leader doesn't change anything, I'm afraid.
He died from the plague or was assassinated after being excommunicated.
The Pope still wants to see me burn in hell. I had his port blockaded when that happened.
I wonder If I hadn't would that have changed anything?
Remember the Papal states declared war when I was excommunicated.

**Spartiate** · 11-28-2006, 13:46

You may just have to ride this one out for 10/15 turns. Queue cathedrals or huge cathedrals in all of your cities.With each one that gets completed you will go up one point in favour with His Holiness regardless of your diplomatic stance.Also start pumping out Priests every couple of turns and when they are ready just click on the far side of the map and send them off.I find they gather piety much faster when on the travel through pagan or Muslim regions.When your points of favour with the Pope reach around 4 he should start listening to reason and accepting you back to the fold (at least he did in my Milan campaign).Its damn near impossible to make peace with the Catholic factions while the Pope has you excommed, at least any peace that they won't turn around and break.Have fun.

**Darius** · 11-28-2006, 16:07

Save the game, kill your new leader, and see if it works, if not, kill the pope, someones gonna have to die here.

**Doug-Thompson** · 11-28-2006, 16:15

I don't supposed excommunicated factions can join a Crusade?

**Kommodus** · 11-28-2006, 16:21

Others have already suggested sending priests to non-catholic lands to increase their piety and get them into the college of Cardinals, so I'll simply add this:

You can improve your papal standing with gifts such as regular tribute. However, if you are at war these gifts may not be accepted. If you must, make some concessions to win a ceasefire. You may have to give away a city, but it's better than losing the campaign.

If you still can't get back into the pope's good graces, simply accept the fact that everyone hates you and rely on your own military power. You may yet be able to get those last 5 territories to win the game.